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do you also believe that big foot is real, that Pearl Harbor was a False flag, that we didn't land on the moon, or that 6 million Jews didn't die in the Holocaust?
What baffles me the most is how some people are so willing to completely ignore the fact that there are too many unanswered questions surrounding the events of 9/11,
believing that it would be too incredible to conceive that their government would ever try to mislead them.
At least part of that willingness comes form the simple fact that many (if not most) of what Truthers call "unanswered questions" actually are answered. Having come to terms with this simple fact generally drives a reasonable person to automatically dismiss additional Truther assertions after merely considering the source.
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Assuming that the Lord or an evolutionary process, gave you a sound, logical and reasoning mind, coupled with a fairly acute vision, would you care to explain how an aircraft with an 108 foot wingspan, managed to fit through a 60 foot hole in the Pentagon wall?
And that right there would be a perfect example. It may sound reasonable on the surface to an uniformed layman, but not if you have actual knowledge of things like aircraft design, architecture, mechanics of materials or even simple physics. It has so many false assumptions built into the statement that no knowledgeable person can take it seriously.
Essentially none of the airplane actually needed to "fit through... (a) hole" at all. As a unitary machine of the dimensions you mention, it ceased to exist immediately upon impact.
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I've always wondered about that myself but I never considered myself to be wacky, so why would you be so willing to pass that judgement on people like myself?
I (a degreed aerospace engineer) would not consider you wacky, just badly misled and misinformed. Most of what passes for 9/11 conspiracy theory is simply that; the product of wild speculation by amateurs, not out and out wackyness.
It is the handful of Truthers who hold onto their wild speculation long after sober and informed specialists have formally debunked it that deserve the adjective "wacky." There appear (at first blush) to be many of them on this thread. But as this is the first of your posts I've read, I am not ready to tar you with that label.
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Additionally, the Pentagon has more video cameras per square acre, than any other square acre in America, yet the government continues to try to convince us that they have no
viewable footage of the event. Do you really believe that?
Of course I believe it. For at least the following reasons:
1. It is almost certainly not true that "the Pentagon has more video cameras per square acre, than any other square acre in America." The specificity of such a claim debunks itself, since there would be no serious way for anybody to know such a thing in the first place. When specific claims like this find their way into arguments like 9/11, you can be certain they are fiction.
2. I have actually been there (prior to 9/11) to review my MILPERCEN files prior to the Army Captain's boards. My close Lietenant friend at the time with whom I traveled there for the review was the son of the XO to the Vice Chief of Staff, so we were able to get extensive tours of the place and personally experience several levels of security. My personal experience of that security is that it was based on people, not technology, and neither anticipate or accounted for an "attack" from the outside.
Remember, we're talking about real life, not the grossly exageratted television fiction of shows like "24 Hours."
3. Where I have been involved in security (associted with visits by 1 US President and 1 Secretary of the Army), one of the first rules I learned was that redundant resources are wasted resources, actually detracting from overall security. The Pentagon has released the video that covered the impact of the AA jet. To expect more is merely wishful thinking.
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And, I'm not even going to bother going over the collapse of building no. 7 with you.
Then I won't bother trying to talk sense into on that one either.
I'm sure the 9/11 Commission had better uncut video (and other data) than some assembled footage made by some John Doe.
For this one detail and no other?
I'm sorry, but what you have just provided for us is an explicit display of your confirmation bias. Even as you reject almost the entire official account as irremediable fiction, you not only glom onto this single detail as revealed truth, suddenly attributing the 9/11 Commission with a credibility and authority that your entire position is committed elsewhere to denying.
I for one think that's a little bit funny.
You have been provided with the tools to start reconsidering a position that you hold that is (from my perspective) demonstrably false. You can take the opportunity to avail yourself of them or not, it is of no genuine difference to me.
But your actual response here indicates you have no intention of permitting your convictions to be threatened by additional input.
But it is enough to prove what it was that did hit the Pentagon.
A Boeing 757 powered by Rolls-Royce RB211-535 turbofans.
That sure was some expert flying! Only several feet less of altitude and the jet would have scrapped the ground and possibly spun out of control before hitting the building.
The government has had 10 years (and improved animation technology) to produce the greatest pieces of evidence we could ever imagine.
And not even bothered to do so.
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