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Old 01-06-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My question on this thread is does the fact that we have all these rich people mean that America is greedy or do we have the environment where people can come here from any nation, have the freedom to succeed, and become wealthy?

In other words, is it the policies of other nations that keep more of their citizens from achieving great wealth?
People are getting wealthier in other countries as well. In fact, China and India are excellent examples. If anything, it just might be easier to get wealthier there, if that is the sole point in life.

Greed is a part of EVERY person, rich or otherwise, here or there. It is what drives capitalism, BTW, as it drives everything else.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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They can point all they want. The bar has simply been shifted in the US. Hell there are arguments all over CD about who is middle class in the US anymore. The supposed poor live in nice dwellings, have big screen tubes, cell phones, cars, cable, electricity, running water the whole shabang. You can have your middle class in china where they poop in the corner and have to drink out of bottled water.

Well many of us don't give a crap about any of the non productive classes as you do. You have a fetish for unproductive leech classes above the law and seem to despise those very much like them under the law who also leech off the productive class. That is why the leech class above the law has created the false dichotomy. Its the underclass( and the welfare state) that allows the wealthy elites to operate.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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My question on this thread is does the fact that we have all these rich people mean that America is greedy or do we have the environment where people can come here from any nation, have the freedom to succeed, and become wealthy?

In other words, is it the policies of other nations that keep more of their citizens from achieving great wealth?
I see it as yet another reason to be damned grateful I was born here.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Well many of us don't give a crap about any of the non productive classes as you do. You have a fetish for unproductive leech classes above the law and seem to despise those very much like them under the law who also leech off the productive class. That is why the leech class above the law has created the false dichotomy. Its the underclass( and the welfare state) that allows the wealthy elites to operate.
What???
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Well many of us don't give a crap about any of the non productive classes as you do. You have a fetish for unproductive leech classes above the law and seem to despise those very much like them under the law who also leech off the productive class. That is why the leech class above the law has created the false dichotomy. Its the underclass( and the welfare state) that allows the wealthy elites to operate.
Ummm...oooookaaaay.

You gettin' enough air in there?
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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People are getting wealthier in other countries as well. In fact, China and India are excellent examples. If anything, it just might be easier to get wealthier there, if that is the sole point in life.

Greed is a part of EVERY person, rich or otherwise, here or there. It is what drives capitalism, BTW, as it drives everything else.
Do not confuse greed and self-interest.

Self-interest drives capitalism. Greed is a sinful extreme of self-interest.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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What???
exactly...
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I see it as yet another reason to be damned grateful I was born here.
Being born here is no guarantee of being rich or getting there. We ought to stop making excuses and learn that people are getting rich in other countries too. Heck, I happened to see the world's most expensive home and it ain't in the USA. The owner wasn't born here.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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exactly...
Umm ok. I guess you told me eh??
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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Being born here is no guarantee of being rich or getting there. We ought to stop making excuses and learn that people are getting rich in other countries too. Heck, I happened to see the world's most expensive home and it ain't in the USA. The owner wasn't born here.
Don't let Tiger's ex wife hear about it. She just bulldozed her 20 million dollar home. Maybe she's going for the record??
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