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Old 01-15-2012, 06:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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that is BS Iran is a victim of it's own extemist, Radical Govronment with it's Sabre Rattling, threats to put sea mines in the Gulf alomng international shipping lanes and not ending it's nuclear enrichment program that is provoking the west.

Iran has only Iran to blame for their current problems and they should wake up and realize we are not messing around and the only way out now ids to have the Iranian govronment step down from power and abandon pursuing their nuclear weapons program.

As they say, ignorance breeds fear.


You kicked y best friend out of your house?
I'm coming and camping out in your backyard.
I'm not going to let you leave and no one comes into your yard but me.
No, you cannot go to work! I'll tell you when you can crap.


Whatcha going to do about it.... Nothing, ehh?
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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****e happens! Dumb asses should have had the the right code punched into the transponder......
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Dispite the fact that the plane was gaining altutude and heading away from the ship. Do you remember how our government and the ship's captain lied and said it was heading right for the ship. Of course war monger, ie republicans, don't believe in facts if it messes up there memory.
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Well, if the Captain lied, then all of the recordings, and all of the computer tracks, were all faked? You of course realize that everything that was taking place was all recorded by the computer equipment. All of the requests of contact, all of the transponder codes (Identify Friend or Foe) requests, the radar tracks, all recorded.. I am sure the C.O. Personally modified all of the data to make it appear that they were in the right?
Even if it was a military aircraft, in what way was it a threat?

Was the ship being painted by radar prior to an hostile missile launch?

Um, no.

Captain Panic panicked and murdered civilians. End of story.

And war-mongering Republicans? You might want to actually review history.

Pointing out the obvious....


Mircea
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Even if it was a military aircraft, in what way was it a threat?

Was the ship being painted by radar prior to an hostile missile launch?

Um, no.

Captain Panic panicked and murdered civilians. End of story.

And war-mongering Republicans? You might want to actually review history.

Pointing out the obvious....

Mircea

Iranian P-3's ( able to launch harpon missles) had been buzzing the fleet all month. The Iranians were squaking in transponder mode 3 both civilian and military which is sop to confuse sensor operators....They paid the price for ****ing with the big kids..... Maybe if you spent a little time aboard ship you know what the obvious really is......
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:18 PM
 
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There is a common misconception also about Iranians hating on Israel because they're jewish and the palestinains are muslim.


Jews in Iran - YouTube
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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The whole documentary:


Don't Tell My Mother i'm in Iran - YouTube
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Lets look at the facts rather than the RT propaganda shall we?



Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FAIL
You like Wikipedia? You probably should have read the link.


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It was an Iranian setup, no transponder codes being transmitted?
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Maybe if the Iranians had learned about modern technology concerning pre-flight checks and how to turn on a transponder no-one would have died.

But since they didn't.............
From your own freakin' link - citing Admiral William Fogarty:

"The data from USS Vincennes tapes, information from USS Sides and reliable intelligence information, corroborate the fact that [Iran Air Flight 655] was on a normal commercial air flight plan profile, in the assigned airway, squawking Mode III 6760, on a continuous ascent in altitude from take-off at Bandar Abbas to shoot-down."

That's the US Navy's official investigation. "Squawking" means transponder is signaling. I think we can see who FAILed.

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The history of Iran shows they are wacko's capable of doing anything, the Liberty did the right thing.
Could you at least figure out the basics? The USS Liberty was 20 years earlier and had zip to do with Iran.
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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Well, if the Captain lied, then all of the recordings, and all of the computer tracks, were all faked? You of course realize that everything that was taking place was all recorded by the computer equipment. All of the requests of contact, all of the transponder codes (Identify Friend or Foe) requests, the radar tracks, all recorded.. I am sure the C.O. Personally modified all of the data to make it appear that they were in the right?

Sure, break out the tin foil hat and the kool aid.
The official US Navy inquiry makes it clear that the transponder was on, that the plane was in the correct air corridor, ascending. The USS Vincennes tried to hail on wrong frequencies and misread the speed when hailing on the one frequency the plane could actually hear.

They screwed the pooch, badly.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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American leaders like to make use of Irony in their illegal wars.
Supposedly the ship was de-commissioned.

Now it's possible it will be used as a false flag operation to justify a war with Iran.

PressTV - Iran target of 'false flag' strategy?
Your link explains nothing about a false flag strategy. Also none of stories that are on the site have any dates on them. The USS Vincennes was decommissioned in San Diego in 2005...it was mothballed up in Washington state (where Peugeot Sound is) but, was sold for scrap to a Texas company and was completely scraped as of Nov. 23, 2011.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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Iranian P-3's ( able to launch harpon missles) had been buzzing the fleet all month. The Iranians were squaking in transponder mode 3 both civilian and military which is sop to confuse sensor operators....They paid the price for ****ing with the big kids..... Maybe if you spent a little time aboard ship you know what the obvious really is......
Don't you know, that poster knows everything , I am shocked , just shocked, you had the temerity to even question his "brilliance" and deep factual knowledge of all things.

Just like his adament claims that iran is not producing plutonium while failing to mention its heavy water plutonium producing plant at Arak...
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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that is BS Iran is a victim of it's own extemist, Radical Govronment with it's Sabre Rattling, threats to put sea mines in the Gulf alomng international shipping lanes and not ending it's nuclear enrichment program that is provoking the west.

Iran has only Iran to blame for their current problems and they should wake up and realize we are not messing around and the only way out now ids to have the Iranian govronment step down from power and abandon pursuing their nuclear weapons program.
America is not responsible for anything is it? Not even deposing the Shah in 1953 and allowing the extremism to take over?

Iran has EVERY right to protect itself and develop nuclear power and/or weapons. It has every right to guard its waters. Who the hell is the US to say otherwise?

Sabre rattling is an American specialty. Iran and the rest of the world just responds to it.
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