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Why are folks like yourself still getting bent out of shape over a revolutionary that's been dead for 4 and a half decades?
What's with the fascination of the comings and goings of left wing dictators and revolutionaries in Latin America? They aren't bothering anyone here.
Does "Ideology or Hero", mean anything to you. It's this kind of mentality, that other countries have against us and their own people. Not, to hard to understand.
Like Hollywood elites who listen to Chavez, then they convince others, Chavez treats his people well. Castro and Chavez have the same hate.
Che and Castro were friends, do you see the pattern............... now Chavez and Amademajad.
If you looked at the link............Chavez says "Che is alive in Venezula". That means his "ideology."
This is a debate, if you don't want to be in on it, don't come in accusing others of being bent out of shape. You do know how to debate don't you????
In 1971 I was attending my senior year in a public high school in Chile. This was during the era when Salvador Allende was President in that country, and less than 4 years after Ernesto "Che" Guevara (ECG) was killed in Valle Grande, Bolivia. Political discussions were pervasive and polarizing in Chile during that time. Some people idolized ECG, others despised the guy, depending on political leaning, but everyone in Chile at the time knew quite a bit about that famous athsmatic revolutionary doctor from Argentina.
I doubt if the Glenn Beck drivel on this thread delves into who was Ernesto "Che" Guevara (ECG) and why he was called Che. Of course Che was not his name. In Argentina, people use the word Che like a person here might say "Dude" or Hey You. Most Argentinians speak Spanish with a strong Italian sounding pronunciation that makes them unique from other dialects of Spanish in the Americas. I have a few friends from Argentina at work, and sometimes I call them Che when greeting them in Spanish but it has nothing to do with Ernesto Che Guevara.
Some of my high school classmates in Chile in 1971 idolized ECG. My high school philosophy teacher, who was a member and activist in the Communist Party of Chile, would sometimes talk at length about the debate at that time among the various left wing factions in Latin America. The great debate at that time was the path of armed struggle that led to the Cuban Revolution compared to how Allende had come to power with a 36 percent share of votes in a 3 candidate Presidential election.
ECG had one big obsession, the support of armed insurrections all over Latin America and Africa that would lead to Cuba-like revolutions that would install strong one party governments capable of standing together against powerful western democracies like the US and also crushing internal opposition. Would ECG have been involved in some Glenn Beck fantasized thing to blow up NYC? No way, not his style and not directly related to his main objective in Latin America and Africa. Don't forget that ECG spent a lot of time in Angola with the MPLA and FRELIMO in Mozambique that were fighting Portugal.
In the late 70s I took a long road trip through much of South America, traveling mostly by bus. Sometimes by coincedence I crossed paths with the shadow of ECG. I was in Cochabamba, Bolivia one time, the largest city in the area where ECG was killed by the Bolivian army 10 years earlier. The US had nothing to do with the death of ECG, it was the Bolivian Army who flushed ECG and his contigent of a couple of dozen armed guys out of the rugged back country. ECG never "clicked" with the locals in Bolivia. The native culture of the decendents of the Incas is a whole other world from Cuba or Argentina or most other places in the Americas. ECG was way, way out of his element in Bolivia, a huge fatal error. Even the Bolivian Communist Party did not lend a helping hand to ECG while he was in Bolivia. ECG ranted at length in his autobiography about this dilemna.
Just a few weeks after my stay in Bolivia I was in Cordoba, Argentina. By chance I was staying in a nearby suburb of Alta Gracia. While staying in in a small guest house in Alta Gracia, somebody told me that ECG had lived in a house with his parents and sister for many years in the 1940s and early 50s that was just 2 blocks away. I remember walking by that house but his family members had moved away by then, but the house is now a museum. In a way, that is sort of appropriate. ECG is long gone and so is his idiology. ECG was a guy who lived a relatively short life, a fervant beliver in creating a sort of make-believe perfect socialist society in every country in Latin America, and not shy about using a gun barrel to get there. I don't preach his beliefs but ECG's life story makes for some interesting reading if you want to know about political and social events in Latin America in the 1950s and 1960s, which carried over into the 1970s.
I would like to thank you for this post as any time somebody points out things like this those who read it can learn. However, your two references to Glenn Beck show me that you aren't really so up on what is going on here now as you claim to be on 1970s Latin America. Beck did create The Blaze but he doesn't spend any time there anymore because he is in Dallas working on his new internet empire that he wants to work. All this crap from lefties, are you one of them, about him and The Blaze is pretty sad. I do watch his editor and others on his internet show and really think they are speaking truth. However, the man was not involved in the story that those people told on the show.
More about The Blaze and the Glenn Beck show. Not only is he in Dallas working on building things up, they are all in New York where they were when it all started. I think that anyone who claims to know so much about Beck and doesn't know what I have told you is just following the left leaning attacks on him.
Have you ever caught Amy Holmes telling a lie about the news that The Blaze is working on at the time. Whoops, I forgot, you probably don't have a subscription to his show and surely aren't taking advantage of the month of free time you can get.
Seriously man, what the hell are you babbling about?
I agree that Guevara was a piece of crap - I just don't see how it relates to current events. So some dummy wants to wear his t-shirt, it's his constitutional right, and it's not going to lose me any sleep. I'll sleep just fine knowing that he is a jackass.
This is decades old news man, and a few dipsticks in stupid t-shirts doesn't reflect on anybody else but themselves. So if you're trying to make a statement about all liberals, you're failing.
Lastly, there's no need to lecture me about Guevara's history. I probably more more about that topic than you could ever hope to.
Let her rip. Maybe you can tell me something I don't know. There is a pretty good post, long but informative at the end of this thread. Can you handle that one?
Che lives! | Green Left Weekly
It is most of all in this sense that Che is alive in Venezuela. It is not his symbol that is important, but his ideas, his courage and his belief that nothing is as important as human liberation. These are the ideas and sentiments that imbue the struggling Venezuelan people.
Bottom Line - Mercedes apologizes for using Che Guevara image (http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/12/10142807-mercedes-apologizes-for-using-che-guevara-image - broken link)
Others glorify him, wonder why since he's been dead so long. He's ways still live and he hated America, the same as Chavez and Amademajad.
No your enemies.
Great link to a very socialist publication. I wonder if any of the left leaners here know about that site. Some of them would go crazy if the could read that one but then they don't read links.
Why are folks like yourself still getting bent out of shape over a revolutionary that's been dead for 4 and a half decades?
What's with the fascination of the comings and goings of left wing dictators and revolutionaries in Latin America? They aren't bothering anyone here.
I see that you didn't read 3~Shepherds' link to that far left link. Maybe even y you could learn something by reading links. You ought to give it a try.
Okay...i'm with that. That end of "foreign" aid includes closing ALL bases in foreign countries too, right? No more defending rich nations such as Saudi, South Korea, Japan, Western Europe, etc...
And of course, no more 3 billion for Israel either.
Sooooo....is that a deal you're willing to make?
Wow, I really need to put tags on the end of my posts for the sarcastically challenged!
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