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Old 02-23-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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You have provided nothing but smack talk, diversion, subject change, and total nonsense. You have shown you know nothing on the subject and you cant even find credible information on the internet. The only technical thing you coppied and pasted you didnt even understand.
My curiosity is why you would take the stand you do. Is it for political reasons? Do you think you are protecting Obama? Or is it just pure ignorance and total control from the mainstream proaganda. I can tell your not smart enough to be part of the coverup ... so thats out. I will tell you what I would like to see ... I'd love to see the expression on your face when you finally realize everything I'm saying is true. I'd love to see that shock and horror when you realize your government is spraying bad chemicals on your head and you breathe it in every minute of everyday. Think about it when your throat is sore, you have a bad headache and your eyes are burning ...
But, but don9, the government (or another one of your secret organizations) has been spraying us with bad chemicals (as per you) for decades now so is it a coverup by all the doctors and the CDC that the entire population of the United States of America is slowly being poisoned?

And since these chemtrails have been observed by the followers of THE TRUTH worldwide is it a world-wide coverup?

You still have my interest piqued in why all of a sudden you have been bringing President Obama into this chemtrail conspiracy. Are they now spraying that deadly chemical concoction Agent Obama over southern California now?

We have the same thoughts about you too
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my curiosity is why you would take the stand you do.
We already know what the expression on your face is:


 
Old 02-23-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually -40C is equal to -40F

And yes, I know the difference

You obviously dont
no appartently you cant put two together

1. YOU sate that clouds and contrails can NOT be formed unless its -40 or colder

2. that is an absolute lie
 
Old 02-23-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Don
I read that they don't chemtrail on windy days. Today we have winds 20-30 mph with 40 mph gusts - and the sky is full of chemtrails. Temp 70F.
Would you comment?
 
Old 02-23-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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no appartently you cant put two together

1. YOU sate that clouds and contrails can NOT be formed unless its -40 or colder

2. that is an absolute lie
Show me the money ...

What I said was what I read in various tecnical documents ... and I specifically said cirrus clouds and contrails. The documents say -40 but I'm giving more margin and saying -35C. But as I calculated, the air temp above Vegas at 35K feet when the air temp on the ground is above 100F would be much warmer than -35F. I said it would have to be cooler than 70F for cirrus clouds and contrails to be present ... I gave swagger an extra 30F from 70F to 100F.
 
Old 02-23-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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FWIW - The air temperature in the Stratosphere at 30,000 ft is NOT RELATED to the air temperature at ground level. The ground Temperature only effects the air temperature in the convective zone below 15,000 ft except during very energetic thunderstorms.
 
Old 02-23-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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FWIW - The air temperature in the Stratosphere at 30,000 ft is NOT RELATED to the air temperature at ground level. The ground Temperature only effects the air temperature in the convective zone below 15,000 ft except during very energetic thunderstorms.
exactly

at 30k-35k ft it would definately be -30c to -60c

its 115 at sealevel. but at 14k (the top of the mountain) has snow......oh the irony
 
Old 02-23-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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exactly

at 30k-35k ft it would definately be -30c to -60c

its 115 at sealevel. but at 14k (the top of the mountain) has snow......oh the irony
A picture from Las Vegas, outside air temperature 103 degrees:

 
Old 02-23-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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FWIW - The air temperature in the Stratosphere at 30,000 ft is NOT RELATED to the air temperature at ground level. The ground Temperature only effects the air temperature in the convective zone below 15,000 ft except during very energetic thunderstorms.
LOL ... Tell that to the International Civil Aviation Organization ... I'm sure they could use the laugh
 
Old 02-23-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Don't you know all these type pictures are Photoshopped?
Oh ... Is it -40C/F on those mountain tops
 
Old 02-23-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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Don
I read that they don't chemtrail on windy days. Today we have winds 20-30 mph with 40 mph gusts - and the sky is full of chemtrails. Temp 70F.
Would you comment?
I have not heard details on operations being curtailed on high wind days. My guess is it depends on the mission. They probably run simulations before they start so if the mission and simulation allows high winds then they probably continue. If the mission requires strict boundaries then they probably wont continue the mission.
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