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Kennedy and Johnson probably shouldn't have gotten us into that mess, but the military, brass and grunts alike, did the honorable thing to try to win the war. What H. Jane did was, at the very least, disrespectful to the men in uniform.
No respectable U.S. President would honor the skank.
(Where's the puke icon?)
Kennedy wanted to maintain an advisory role only.
Johnson was weak and allowed himself to be manipulated by McNamara and the rest.
I haven't forgotten her. I too was in Vietnam at that time. I wish someone had recorded her incredibly insulting propaganda broadcasts on Hanoi Hanah's radio program ("You GIs are a bunch of suckers..."). They would make very interesting listening today.
I wish her no harm for the mistaken ideology of her youth, certainly not eternal torment. She has reportedly become a Christian in her later years, and if so that makes her my sister in Christ. Still, if I had done what she did, I wouldn't be able to accept such an award as she is being considered for.
I wonder if the "rot in hell" club is aware that Fonda has apologized at various times throughout the years? Even directly to Vietnam vets. On national TV too.
Does that mean I excuse her for her actions? Not at all, but at least she's tried to make amends.
Yes she did, her money was running short and she needed the publicity.
Some things one can forgive and forget but going to the country that was at war with America and manning the guns that killed American pilots?
No frigging way will I forgive her or forget her socialist actions against Americans.
Yes she did, her money was running short and she needed the publicity.
Some things one can forgive and forget but going to the country that was at war with America and manning the guns that killed American pilots?
No frigging way will I forgive her or forget her socialist actions against Americans.
I haven't forgotten either. Brain cells are funny that way - they remember things. I guess I'm special too... since I haven't forgotten what she did. I lost a parent in that useless war, yet I am not whining like some of you. The people pretending to be so outraged really need to get some perspective.
Money? She has never had an issue with not having money, rest assured, what a lame attempt to dismiss.
Aw man... this old email forward has made the rounds again, somehow. It first showed up in the 1990s. Someone forwarded it to me the other day. I've gotten it at least two other times, although this time Barack Obama was in it, and the first email was before he was president.
Read up on this; most of the stories are false. I'm not suggesting that Hanoi Jane is a prize, but this email forward which has been going around for over a decade, is not worth a crap either, historically speaking.
Do the pictures of Fonda sitting with that gun crew lie? Who was the woman in those pictures? Oh well, you really see her as a hero even though she sidled up to Jon Carry in 1971 or 2 calling the American soldiers murderers and baby killers. She was as low back then as Carry was.
Johnson was weak and allowed himself to be manipulated by McNamara and the rest.
Yeah? Well, I wasn't there so I only know the results. Kennedy sent the first men there; Johnson built it up. I certainly agree that it was primarily Johnson's war, but McNamara was simply the secretary of defense. For whatever reason Johnson escalated the war, it falls on his shoulders.
But that's neither here nor there. The point is that Jane Fonda went WAAAAY to far by cozying up with the Vietcong. To call her a traitor is pretty much spot-on, imho.
If Obama is indeed honoring her with an award, it will not be appreciated by the men who fought in Nam. Pretty stupid in an election year, but....
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