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I am happy to hear that the president is going to honor her.
The measure of a person's life is in its entirety, not one specific incident that when put into perspective simply illustrates the greatness of this country that allows people to freely speak their minds.
I cannot help thinking that Ms Fonda has become an easy target for many. They simply cannot bring themselves to condemn the establishment that perpetrated the real crime of drafting a whole generation of young men to send them needlessly to their deaths because that would mean that they themselves were wrong in their support of the war.
I hope those who still harbor such hate in their hearts someday find peace.
I am happy to hear that the president is going to honor her.
The measure of a person's life is in its entirety, not one specific incident that when put into perspective simply illustrates the greatness of this country that allows people to freely speak their minds.
I cannot help thinking that Ms Fonda has become an easy target for many. They simply cannot bring themselves to condemn the establishment that perpetrated the real crime of drafting a whole generation of young men to send them needlessly to their deaths because that would mean that they themselves were wrong in their support of the war.
I hope those who still harbor such hate in their hearts someday find peace.
My heart will find peace with hanoi jane when she is 6 feet under and maggots are chewing on her face...
hanoi jane, the p0rn star before she betrayed her country.
I am happy to hear that the president is going to honor her.
Then he should honor Sean Penn and Louis Farrahkan for their support of Khadafi and Sadam Hussein. Ezra Pound should be given an official posthumous government apology. Benedict Arnold should have his honorable reputation restored.
Yeah? Well, I wasn't there so I only know the results. Kennedy sent the first men there; Johnson built it up. I certainly agree that it was primarily Johnson's war, but McNamara was simply the secretary of defense. For whatever reason Johnson escalated the war, it falls on his shoulders.
But that's neither here nor there. The point is that Jane Fonda went WAAAAY to far by cozying up with the Vietcong. To call her a traitor is pretty much spot-on, imho.
If Obama is indeed honoring her with an award, it will not be appreciated by the men who fought in Nam. Pretty stupid in an election year, but....
Cruzincat is right. Truman was the first President to get the US involved in Vietnam by aiding the French with $80 billion in WW II military surplus between 1952 and 1956 (during the Korean war). Eisenhower was the first President to send 400 US troops as 'military advisers' to Vietnam in 1956. By December 1960 there were 2,000 US troops in Vietnam. By November 1963 there were 20,000 US troops in Vietnam.
In August 1964 President Johnson manufactured the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and Congress authorized the use of military force based upon Johnson's fiction. Congress did not repeal the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution until December 1974, even though the Fall of Saigon did not occur until April 1975. The Fall of Saigon came only one month after the Democrat controlled Congress refused to honor the 1973 Paris Peace Accords agreement. As a result of the Democrat betrayal, Vietnam refused to return our POWs.
Hanoi Jane is without any doubt a traitor, and always will be. Abject hatred of their country was synonymous with liberal freaks back then, and even to this day (President Obama is a perfect example of that liberal hatred toward the US).
Some things you eventually forgive and forget, but treason is not one of them, and this old vet has not done so and never will. Nothing that I could have done personally except for a small gesture; since her trip to Hanoi have refused to view or attend any film or performance in which she appears, and will never do so. If in another persons home and one of her films happens to be on the TV I leave the room. If I had the power to do so I would try her for treason, and after her conviction would have her hung by the neck until dead.
I have a friend who was on the USS C. Turner Joy and he says it was not a manufactured incident.
I served with a Gunners Mate who had served on her who fired on the nvn torpedo boats.
These conspiracy nuts....
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