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Old 02-12-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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agree. He is teaching his children how he is not in control, not able to communicate effectively and the next time she wants to vent ~ or discuss anything, the last person she's going to go to is the crazy guy with the gun.
What is sad is, it's already been documented that this man's actions had a positive effect on his daughter.
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Video Of Gun-toting Dad Blasting Away At Daughter's Laptop Goes Viral | Fox News



I think he didn't need to use exploding rounds, Federal Hydroshocks would have been suitable..

I also applaud his actions.
I'd imagine this also wards off any potential boyfriends for at least a year or so...
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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What is sad is, it's already been documented that this man's actions had a positive effect on his daughter.
Compliance based on fear is not a true positive effect. Hate toward your father and his irrational actions isn't a positive effect.
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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Compliance based on fear is not a true positive effect. Hate toward your father and his irrational actions isn't a positive effect.
Yup.
Then again, I was raised to do chores well before I was a teen. My things weren't busted up if I acted like a typical teenager either.

Lets see their relationship in 10 years time. If she's calling him for help or just a chat or not. My bet is, she won't be.
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Compliance based on fear is not a true positive effect. Hate toward your father and his irrational actions isn't a positive effect.
If compliance was to be based on fear, he would have handcuffed her to a post and made her watch or something stupid and idiotic like that.

He wasn't trying to cause fear in order to gain compliance, he was using the destruction of her laptop for it's shock value. Who cares HOW it was destroyed. If he decided to drive a tractor trailer over it while having it filmed, or by hiring someone to fly it it to 5k ft and drop it, would you be complaining the same way? of course not, even though both ways are just as effective, and just as crazy.
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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If compliance was to be based on fear, he would have handcuffed her to a post and made her watch or something stupid and idiotic like that.

He wasn't trying to cause fear in order to gain compliance, he was using the destruction of her laptop for it's shock value. Who cares HOW it was destroyed. If he decided to drive a tractor trailer over it while having it filmed, or by hiring someone to fly it it to 5k ft and drop it, would you be complaining the same way? of course not, even though both ways are just as effective, and just as crazy.
... and if she didn't vent on facebook and instead in notes to friends (the good old days) would he have acted like a complete maniac?
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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... and if she didn't vent on facebook and instead in notes to friends (the good old days) would he have acted like a complete maniac?
Who cares? She did what she did, he did what he did. In the good ole days there wouldn't be a laptop involved, and the ammo would have been cheaper.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Since when has it become mandatory to pay offspring to perform household chores? Being part of a family has responsibilities, and the rewards for that duty are meals, a roof to sleep under, clothes, school, transportation, and all those things teenagers take for granted.

Since when does a parent not have the right to demand that a family member pull his/her own weight, and do so without writing a filthy-mouthed diatribe on a social media? Sometimes children need to learn that life is not always "fair", and that at many points in their lives they will be expected to perform duties without question or discussion, ...and just bite their tongue and go along.

Since parenting is not an exact science, many on this forum need to understand that they do not have all the answers, nor are not qualified to make a psychological evaluation based upon a few minute clip on the internet. No one knows the particulars of this event nor the participants involved. Some are making a mountain out of a molehill.
No one says you must pay her, but it certainly should be a conversation point... just because it is talked about doesn't mean it is adopted, or ruled out, just discussed... There isn't enough communication going on in this household. After seeing his tirade, I think I can guess why.

I would think he is embarrassed to let people know what he is like. Maybe he doesn't have enough sense to realize ...
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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Who cares? She did what she did, he did what he did. In the good ole days there wouldn't be a laptop involved, and the ammo would have been cheaper.
She acted like a teen. He acted like a fool.

In the good old days, you didn't air your dirty laundry for the world to see and think you're a hero for it.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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If compliance was to be based on fear, he would have handcuffed her to a post and made her watch or something stupid and idiotic like that.

He wasn't trying to cause fear in order to gain compliance, he was using the destruction of her laptop for it's shock value. Who cares HOW it was destroyed. If he decided to drive a tractor trailer over it while having it filmed, or by hiring someone to fly it it to 5k ft and drop it, would you be complaining the same way? of course not, even though both ways are just as effective, and just as crazy.
Yep, shocks like that are real constructive. I real character building moment. That dad has damaged his kid forever.

Here is a poem that seems appropriate.

If a child lives with criticism, he learns to condemn.

If a child lives with hostility, he learns to fight.

If a child lives with fear, he learns to be apprehensive.

If a child lives with pity, he learns to feel sorry for himself.

If a child lives with jealousy, he learns to feel guilty.

If a child lives with encouragement, he learns to be self-confident.

If a child lives with tolerance, he learns to be patient.

If a child lives with praise, he learns to be appreciative.

If a child lives with acceptance, he learns to love.

If a child lives with approval, he learns to like himself.

If a child lives with recognition, he learns to have a goal.

If a child lives with fairness, he learns what justice is.

If a child lives with honesty, he learns what truth is.

If a child lives with sincerity, he learns to have faith in himself and those around him.

If a child lives with love, he learns that the world is a wonderful place to live in.
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