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Sounds to me like the city should have chosen one qualifier and stuck with it.
If the 'real' score required for hiring was in the 80s, then that should have been the cut-off.
Can't change the rules in the middle of the game and expect to get away with it.
Why did the city change the qualifications during the hiring process?
Sounds to me like the city should have chosen one qualifier and stuck with it.
If the 'real' score required for hiring was in the 80s, then that should have been the cut-off.
Can't change the rules in the middle of the game and expect to get away with it.
They shouldn't have a qualifying score at all and just picked the highest scores, end of story.
The argument is these black candidates make the "qualification" thresehold to do the job. Therefore, hiring should be proportional to the percentage of blacks in the community. Nobody hiring here, is claiming the potential job candidates are ranked in order. The candidates that were not hired are making the claim due to their aptitude scores and/or job qualifications making them "more qualified". I don't disagree with their argument.
They shouldn't have a qualifying score at all and just picked the highest scores, end of story.
The standard practice of the city seems to be random selection if they meet the qualifications. The current crop of firefighters were selected thsi way, including the White ones. You don't seem to have a problem with that.
Ditto to the 'quotas doesn't work' theme, and diversity for diversity sake should never take precedence over a person's abilities and qualifications. People's lives are at stake, here. Fighting fires is not the time to be politically correct.
Brett Munsey, 43, who is of Filipino descent has been with the department for five years and said he greatly enjoys his job and at no time during the testing process or his time in uniform did he ever experience racism by the FDNY or his fellow firefighters. He even has a co-worker that is of Korean decent.
"From my perspective, there is no bias toward any ethnic group," Munsey said. "It's open to everyone and anyone who is eligible."
.... and how does lowering the bar make the white applicants more stupid? They will still be the best candidates for the job.
I'm not sure what you mean? The people to get the job were randomly selected from those applicants that scored above 89. Apparently many black applicants did not score above 89 so you had disproportionate amount of black applicants that did not qualify. The only way to get them to qualify is to lower the score needed to qualify.
Why did the city change the qualifications during the hiring process?
they Did NOT 'change' the hiring in the middle
like ANY firm (to include the federal governmet) you have LEVELS of applicants:
not qualified
qualified
and HIGHLY qualified
they stated at it STILL GOES that 65 was qualified...they HIRED the HIGHLY qualifed of 89 and up
its in the op(NYT) story
The city said anyone who had scored above 65 was considered “qualified,” but chose its initial hires from random sets among candidates who scored 89 or better, a group it deemed “highly qualified,” court documents say.
if I have a guy scoring 90 and is highly qualified...should I HIRE the guy who made a 65 instead????? just for the sake of a quota???
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