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Old 03-22-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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How do you measure the value added by a cashier?

And how do you get new skills if you can't afford education or training? I can learn myself accounting but that's not going to get me an accounting job.
We are all responsible for the choices we make.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Why would someone with any marketable skills be a burger flipper?
Why would someone without marketable skills have "choices"?
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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How do you measure the value added by a cashier?

And how do you get new skills if you can't afford education or training? I can learn myself accounting but that's not going to get me an accounting job.
We have plenty of affordable education. It may even be free if you are poor and can get the grants. Community colleges and state colleges for residents are affordable.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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Apparently the burger flipper made the foolish decision to flip hamburgers instead of opening a hamburger stand.

So wage slaves CHOOSE to be wage slaves.
That's as close to the truth as you've ever come!
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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We have plenty of affordable education. It may even be free if you are poor and can get the grants. Community colleges and state colleges for residents are affordable.
The Badger Herald: News: Bush cuts Pell Grants
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:23 PM
 
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We have plenty of affordable education. It may even be free if you are poor and can get the grants. Community colleges and state colleges for residents are affordable.

I live on a poverty level income and can't get grants and cimmunity college is not affordable.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:28 PM
 
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That's as close to the truth as you've ever come!

But in your world, the burger flipper would starve if he didn't go to work and flip burgers.

That's wage slavery for you.

Are you saying that the working poor are the biggest chumps of all in this country?
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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You know that article is 7 years old. You are desperate to keep bashing Bush when you have the worst president in history serving out his last few months.
Any family with income under $35,000 can get Pell grants. Up to $60,000 gets some grant money too. Still not enough free money? Earn a scholarship.
Federal Pell Grant
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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I live on a poverty level income and can't get grants and cimmunity college is not affordable.
Then I guess you will have to stay on welfare.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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Any family with income under $35,000 can get Pell grants. Up to $60,000 gets some grant money too. Still not enough free money? Earn a scholarship.
Federal Pell Grant

Au contraire...having earned a bachelor's degree makes you ineligible for Pell Grants. So all those overeducated, underemployed baristas are out of luck.

And I graduated in the top 5 percent of my class (3.9 GPA and 1300+ SAT back when max SAT score was 1600) and the only scholarship I got was a state scholarship which many graduating seniors got and which paid a whopping $100/yr for books and only at an in-state school.
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