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Old 03-18-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I don't think you're really answering his question. matt1984 is suggesting that employees provide a way for business owners to make money.

For example, an employee (such as a customer service employee that he suggested) propagates business plans up to business owners.

But this is completely false. The business plan starts at the top and gets propagated down.
Business plans are great but without the employees to carry them out they don't work. Unless the owner does everything in the business then employees do contribute to making money. Customer service is important in how they treat customers may be a deciding a factor if the customer comes back or not thus wither the owner makes money or not.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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Doesn't matter what your definition of general welfare is, all that matters is hpw the SCOTUS defines it. You're in the minority, enjoy.
Please show me where the SCOTUS has the power to interpret the Constitution.

I'll wait.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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No, I think the "crazy left", as you call them would want to see jobs with a chance to support themselves. Where are these jobs the "job creaters" promised in exchange for all those tax cuts? Is it time wall street and big business gets back to making money by employing people instead of downsizing and outsourcing?????
Who do you think has 90% of Americans working?

Downsizing and outsourcing are not a bad thing. Have you checked your 401K lately?
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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The entire wage range was 25 cents. In my observation there was a substantial range of productivity among employees.

So how is it that all the positions and all the employees were worth essentially the same wage?
Wait a minute!

Sounds like a union to me!

But I digress.....if your value is $12 an hour and you're being paid $7.50, who's wrong?
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Who do you think has 90% of Americans working?

Downsizing and outsourcing are not a bad thing. Have you checked your 401K lately?
I'd guess about 50% of Americans are NOT working, so you're wrong on that level. On the ones that are working, I'd guess about 50% of those are working for small companies and working for themselves.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Please show me where the SCOTUS has the power to interpret the Constitution.

I'll wait.
No, because we have done this before, I show you and you deny that the words straight from the constitution don't mean what they say. The SCOTUS was given the authority BY THE CONSTITUTION to settle disputes arising from the constitution and the law... enjoy.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No, because we have done this before, I show you and you deny that the words straight from the constitution don't mean what they say. The SCOTUS was given the authority BY THE CONSTITUTION to settle disputes arising from the constitution and the law... enjoy.
The problem arose when the SCOTUS became the most powerful instead of the least powerful of the 3 branches. In Marbury v Madison,
Chief Justice John Marshall was the Secretary of State and brother Jimmy was involved in delivering the commissions. No conflict of interest there.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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>Low wage workers do not have any federal tax responsibility. and, they're assisted by the provider class.<

WRONG

If there was no profit in it he would not have his low wage job. He works for a low wage and his production or service is resold at a profit. This profit does not go to the low wage guy. The owner gets it.

Yes i know small detail.
Payroll taxes. Another small detail.
sales Tax. Another small detail.
...
The recipient class is far far smaller than you pontificate. And far fewer people have alot of sympathy for the welfare class (vs. low wage workers.)
You live in a fantasy world don't you?
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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The problem arose when the SCOTUS became the most powerful instead of the least powerful of the 3 branches. In Marbury v Madison,
Chief Justice John Marshall was the Secretary of State and brother Jimmy was involved in delivering the commissions. No conflict of interest there.
The only people that think the SCOTUS has too much power are the losing party. When the SCOTUS said Lilly Ledbetter didn't have a wage discrimination claim because she didn't bring the claim within 180 days even though she didn't know she was being discriminated against within that 180 days.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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Wait a minute!

Sounds like a union to me!

But I digress.....if your value is $12 an hour and you're being paid $7.50, who's wrong?

I make no representation of my (self-perceived) value. All I'm asking is how can the most productive employee's value be only 25 cents/hour greater than that of the least productive employee?

Surely you didn't think that wages are commensurate with productivity, did you?
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