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Old 03-15-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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CBO: except for a few million of you, best case:

CBO: Health law could cause as many as 20M to lose coverage - The Hill's Healthwatch
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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"could" being the operative word.

"The figure represents the worst-case scenario, CBO says, and the law could just as well increase the number of people with employer-based coverage by 3 million in 2019. "

The report also doesn't take into account that some employers would then decide to cover their employees, so the numbers are off even more.

What this is saying is that many employers are "underinsuring" their employees. That the added "must haves" for insurance plans could make the costs go up, and make some employers drop that coverage. Of course they would then have to pay a fine.

But this is all hypothetical
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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"could" being the operative word.

"The figure represents the worst-case scenario, CBO says, and the law could just as well increase the number of people with employer-based coverage by 3 million in 2019. "

The report also doesn't take into account that some employers would then decide to cover their employees, so the numbers are off even more.

What this is saying is that many employers are "underinsuring" their employees. That the added "must haves" for insurance plans could make the costs go up, and make some employers drop that coverage. Of course they would then have to pay a fine.

But this is all hypothetical
Their best estimate is millions losing coverage each year. As Pelosi said, we are still trying to figure out what's in it.



I'm sure they'll be cool with that though, hope and change and all.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They can just go to the exchange and buy insurance. And if the premium is too expensive it will be subsidized.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Their best estimate is millions losing coverage each year. As Pelosi said, we are still trying to figure out what's in it.



I'm sure they'll be cool with that though, hope and change and all.
Their best estimate doesn't take into account the number of businesses that decide to start covering their employees.

Its looking at loss only, no gain, and there will be gain.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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"could" being the operative word.

"The figure represents the worst-case scenario, CBO says, and the law could just as well increase the number of people with employer-based coverage by 3 million in 2019. "

The report also doesn't take into account that some employers would then decide to cover their employees, so the numbers are off even more.

What this is saying is that many employers are "underinsuring" their employees. That the added "must haves" for insurance plans could make the costs go up, and make some employers drop that coverage. Of course they would then have to pay a fine.

But this is all hypothetical
This is not a hypothetical. A hypothetical involves existing as an idea or a concept. This is not an idea or a concept. This is an educated estimation based off of real-world policy particulars as written into the law and put into fruition by the rulemaking process. This analysis shows the range of possibilities....not that the possibilities might not exist at all. Therefore some variation of the possibilities will take place, it's just uncertain which variation.

Are 20 million people losing coverage what you had envisioned for the government takeover of health insurance law? Afterall, it is a possibility.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And to the less than minimally informed... he said that when he wanted that public option be a part of health care reform, while the con-men and con-women were screaming about government take over of health care.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Has anyone noticed that critics never post a direct link to the original source?
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Has anyone noticed that critics never post a direct link to the original source?
I guess if you read the article in the link you'd see there is a link to the CBO report.
And if you click on that link you get this:

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43082
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Has anyone noticed that critics never post a direct link to the original source?
Perspective is an enemy to their whims.
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