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Old 03-18-2012, 06:14 AM
 
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It seems to me that the thinking of the hyperconservatives here is the laissez faire philosophy that ruled in the latter half of the 19th century. Massive inequality, rapacious consumption of our resources, perennial saber rattling and war mongering, a view that American was divinely blessed and could steal what it wanted. White males ruled, others tread lightly and they knew their place. These were heady times when a few compiled untold wealth, and many worked for little or nothing.

It seems to me like most of the developed world has developed 20th century achievements like universal health care, environmental protections, public transportation systems that lower pollution, a strong middle class, a decline in the political influence of religion, a recognition that science should be supported and respected, and that politicians should be intelligent, highly educated people, not used care salesmen, a citizenry that embraces other culture and can speak several languages, etc. The most advanced, intelligent nations in the world have all moved in these directions, yet American conservatives seem as mired in their retrograde mindset as the hardline communists of China or N. Korea. Funny thing is, we lived through the 19th century and the 20th century was far better.

How are the American conservative demagogues (Beck, Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, Palin, Hannity,etc.,etc.) the only group that "gets it" and all other countries and intellectual advances can be ignored? What is so great about a society of barons and serfs and uneducated masses listening to talking points by corporate schills? I liked the 20th century, and I'd like to move forward from there, not go back to a society that was unjust and unsustainable.
When I see threads like this it validates to me how stupid liberals are... what's next? Conservatives are keeping extraterrestrial life from making contact with humans? We already know what you are trying to do... 1) Troll 2) Influence idiots out there that will believe your message...
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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What is happening is conservative politians today are trying to roll back whatever progress Dems have made in the past 100 years so the Republican party can stay relevant by perennially pretending to be there to "fix" the same old problems over and over again and never really get anywhere.


They are deliberately trying to roll back progress and break the system so they can pretend they are needed along side Democrats to fix it.
Are you saying that the national debt is not a problem?
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Houston
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No, it is the left who want to drive us back to the 18th century.
They hate all that is good. A pox on them.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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Nothing like coming from the bar drunk and letting your ignorance shine on the interwebs.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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Michio Kaku: "If you are against world government you are a terrorist" - YouTube

lol...I'm sure the OP is also waiting for us to evolve into a Buck Rogers "Type I Civilization"
Good clip. Interesting thoughts.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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Good clip. Interesting thoughts.
Coming from you, you can imagine my surprise.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Generally, America is a socially backwards nation.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Generally, America is a socially backwards nation.

What is socially "forwards"??

What is socially "right"??
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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What is socially "forwards"??

What is socially "right"??
No such tthings as 'right' or 'wrong'. That all depends on what is acceptable or not acceptable.
Socially backwards is: clinging to old traditions, prejudices, superstitions, and resisting change.
Progress is based on reason, evaluating situations and conditions, and making imporovements.
But America is the land of ignorant, paranoid, gullible chumps.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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Default The GOP is Keeping us in the 19th Century

The 19th century? You mean the one that saw the invention of the steam engine, the locomotive, railroads, telegraph & telephone, automobiles, gas lighting, the stethoscope, electric light, portland cement, typewriter, sewing machine, McCormick reaper, cotton gin, mechanical calculators, the wrench, rubber tires, dental anasthesia, rayon, pasteurization, plastic, elevators, metal windmills, toilet paper, zippers, etc., etc., etc.?

The 19th century? When America made unprecedented advances in the standard of living of the avergae person? When a path away from the grinding poverty of subsistence agriculture for most people finally became clear?

The GOP is trying to restore the creativity and vibrancy of the 19th century, so we can afford those 21st century inventions, like prepaid debit cards with welfare benefits.
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