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Nope, just pointing out that you like obama care....and now want to opt out and not pay....which you will still do in obama care.
I won't call it Obama Care, largely because of republicanism embedded in it. I would, and prefer it, if it included at least public option.
So, why are you opposed to implementing this republican redprint for Medicare/Medicaid deform within five years and a provision to opt out if bureaucrats must dictate my "premium" based on inflation?
Still refuses to offer any revenue increase, only cuts. There is no similarity to Simpson-Bowles. He again would assure the demise of Medicare. Nothing new, oh except now they call the "Death Panels", unelected bureaucrats. I guess so they can confuse their minions...apparently it works .. ^^
Bob, just stop it. Paul Ryan on CNBC this morning made it as clear as a bell that under the proposed budget MORE revenues would be collected from the income tax BEFORE any dynamic scoring. Simpson Bowles and the Gang of Six and Rivlin's commission ALL called for taking the garbage out of the tax code, reducing deductions and exemption and loopholes, cutting the marginal rates, AND COLLECTING MORE ACTUAL DOLLARS. This is the Ryan formula as well.
SOme people are so fixated on jamming a high marginal rate down the country's throat that they are not paying attention to the arithmetic.
I don't actually see this as a mistake, unless you take honesty as a mistake.
Many Republicans, many on this board in fact, can not settle on the fact that Americans like social security and medicare.
Ryans plan would cut both, and allow opt outs, etc. Its a good starting point for a compromise. But this is generally the Republican motto. Allow private investment outside of social security, if not end it. Allow for private options of medicare, if you can find any. And increase military spending. All the while, hardly, if ever, raise taxes.
Democrats just spend and spend and spend, without raising taxes, and without cutting programs.
There are realistic cuts and changes to the medicare and social security programs. We should cut defense, instead of increase it, and taxes are simply going to have to be raised, probably on everyone, to pay down our national debt.
Thats the hard truth, and Ryan's plan lays out some hard truths. But where its politically a problem is that they seem to think that if they keep telling people that privatizing social security and medicare are good options, and the real truth is 70% of Americans support those programs EXACTLY the way they appear today.
I'm not saying that we should leave well enough alone, because they are hardly well enough, but the cuts and changes he proposes simply are supported by Americans.
I agree with your comments. The concern is with what you indicate...that many people support these plans as they are today. But the plans we have today are not economically viable. To keep the same benefits, SS and Medicare taxes would have to be increased rather dramatically. Yet, due to policital expediency we have CUT those taxes for the last two years. I hope most people are smart enough to realize that this can't continue, and that "sticking it to the rich" won't solve our problems.
Equally as big an issue is Medicaid, something no one wants to talk about. Both federal and state expenditures have increased excessively over the past decade, and we aren't even willing to look at ways of reigning in spending.
Bob, just stop it. Paul Ryan on CNBC this morning made it as clear as a bell that under the proposed budget MORE revenues would be collected from the income tax BEFORE any dynamic scoring. Simpson Bowles and the Gang of Six and Rivlin's commission ALL called for taking the garbage out of the tax code, reducing deductions and exemption and loopholes, cutting the marginal rates, AND COLLECTING MORE ACTUAL DOLLARS. This is the Ryan formula as well.
SOme people are so fixated on jamming a high marginal rate down the country's throat that they are not paying attention to the arithmetic.
Please .... "A pig by any other name, is still a pig".
I won't call it Obama Care, largely because of republicanism embedded in it. I would, and prefer it, if it included at least public option.
So, why are you opposed to implementing this republican redprint for Medicare/Medicaid deform within five years and a provision to opt out if bureaucrats must dictate my "premium" based on inflation?
I'm not saying yes or no...either way.....
All I'm saying is that 1 bill you like and the other you don't.....one you don't want to opt out and the other you do.....
All I'm saying is that 1 bill you like and the other you don't.....one you don't want to opt out and the other you do.....
And you're different, I assume? Really? That you like both or neither?
Personally, I don't see how Affordable Care Act affects me adversely. As I said, it is far from being perfect, and the least we should have gotten is a public option. As for this Paul Ryan idiocy (that you likely "like", but you don't like ACA), my questioning starts with... why start 10 years down the road? Too much of a voting bloc to deal with, if we were to start 3-5 years down the road instead?
Mr. Ryan's answer's to questions were loaded with spin and non-answers. He has defered to committee the loop holes which he wouldnt comment on. Give me a break at least the Pres. has put out a starting budget, it may not pass but it gives you 2 different views. I think the Repub. budget will pass the house but not the senate.
It is Repub. economic polices that didnt work and that are still hurting our country and creating the debt that is being created now.
I want to see what happens when the Bush taxes end and the cost saving occurs in 2013
What is Ryan's tax plan for American companies who've moved their operations overseas?
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