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Old 04-12-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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I would rather see a kid raised by a couple of gay parents who love them then to be passed around from foster home to foster home to be beaten and abused. The facts are already out on what happens to kids in foster care.
If all stays normal, yes.

If it ends up adopted children of gays want to themselves become gay more than childern in regular families did before, it would suggest they are in a dangerous enviornment and would also suggest a lot of being gay is caused by outside forces.
If these adopted kids by gays want to kill themselves more or have more emotional problems, that also is going to come to light.
Like I said, we'll see. What if they end up having kids thrive more? You never know...
Going to be an eye opener IMO.
Lets hope for the best.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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I never really thought a person could "de-gay" themselves. I do believe that it's a condition a person is born with, not a choice. But I don't believe that it's right, or normal. I hope one day scientists can straighten out what causes a person to be gay.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I never really thought a person could "de-gay" themselves. I do believe that it's a condition a person is born with, not a choice. But I don't believe that it's right, or normal. I hope one day scientists can straighten out what causes a person to be gay.
Why is it wrong?
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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I never really thought a person could "de-gay" themselves. I do believe that it's a condition a person is born with, not a choice. But I don't believe that it's right, or normal. I hope one day scientists can straighten out what causes a person to be gay.
There is a lot of trauma, molestations and other things that also cause IMO some of these people to turn out as they do.

Bono was raped by a lesbian as a child.
As an adult she becomes a lesbian and wants a sex change.
How much is cause and effect? I think this is the question that needs to be answered.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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If all stays normal, yes.

If it ends up adopted children of gays want to themselves become gay more than childern in regular families did before, it would suggest they are in a dangerous enviornment and would also suggest a lot of being gay is caused by outside forces.
If these adopted kids by gays want to kill themselves more or have more emotional problems, that also is going to come to light.
Like I said, we'll see. What if they end up having kids thrive more? You never know...
Going to be an eye opener IMO.
Lets hope for the best.
Whatever is best for the kids IMO. Right now the foster system is more of a money maker for the states and they don't really care what becomes of especially the older kids.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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There is a lot of trauma, molestations and other things that also cause IMO some of these people to turn out as they do.

Bono was raped by a lesbian as a child.
As an adult she becomes a lesbian and wants a sex change.
How much is cause and effect? I think this is the question that needs to be answered.
Bono should play middle linebacker in the NFL.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:13 AM
 
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The crap if at all will hit the fan with all the adoptions of children by gays IMO, that is where the action will be, not this.

As these children are followed in their life we are going to see how many compared to the past follow traditional lives and how many want to change their bodies, have mental problems or try and kill themselves as half the transgendered people attempt to do.
We know Chastity Bono was assaulted by a Lesbian as a child and we see what happened to her down the road.

Cause and effect IMO in most cases and the interesting study and science will be in the honest reporting of what happens to the children adopted by gays.
That IMO is where the action is in the future.

If there is a gay gene, would they take a DNA shot to repair themselves?

In any case, gays are mostly nice people (as long and they stay away from tolerance training in schools IMO, too many activists doing the wrong thing there for me to TOLERATE that).
They deserve the right to work and live mostly in peace.
Like I said, most are nice folks.
BUT, we are going to follow the adopted children and that is going to perhaps give the greatest view regarding gays effect on children and society at large.
I hope there is no change and everything stays good. We'll see!

As a gay man I would not take a DNA shot to "repair" myself. There is nothing to repair.

I think that tolerance training in schools is absolutely necessary, there is too much hate and bigotry...if tolerance training can help counter that I'm all for it.

As for gays adopting children...that is another topic altogether, and one that should have a separate thread.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN (USA)
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As a confident gay male, I've always viewed the so-called "ex-gays" as either (1) gay people so caught up with following narrow-minded religious dogma that they choose to live a lie or (2) bisexual people capable of meaningful relationships with either sex but who choose to only have relationships with the opposite sex. The former is rather sad but pretty much expected given the lack of acceptance of homosexuality in American society until very recently. The latter is intriguing to me because many bisexual people seem to never self-identify as such and it can be very confusing to others. I've noted that both straight and gay people alike seem to be perplexed by bisexuality.

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I never really thought a person could "de-gay" themselves. I do believe that it's a condition a person is born with, not a choice. But I don't believe that it's right, or normal. I hope one day scientists can straighten out what causes a person to be gay.
I'm always confused with views like this. Why would you want to "fix" something about a person that really isn't a problem in the first place? Is it because of your religious views?

I'm always intrigued by people who seem to acknowledge to that homosexuality is innate and/or something that cannot be altered, but still believe it's somehow an abomination or expect gay people to live a lie to suit the beliefs of others.

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There is a lot of trauma, molestations and other things that also cause IMO some of these people to turn out as they do.
This is a "grasping at straws" assumption that people make to try to explain away homosexuality rather than simply acknowledging that a certain percentage of people simply are not attracted to the opposite sex. While there are certainly gay people who have traumatic youths, it's generally a result of their sexual orientation and not the other way around.

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Old 04-12-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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If all stays normal, yes.

If it ends up adopted children of gays want to themselves become gay more than childern in regular families did before, it would suggest they are in a dangerous enviornment..
WOW That really takes the cake! And I don't mean your spelling errors either.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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As a gay man I would not take a DNA shot to "repair" myself. There is nothing to repair.

I think that tolerance training in schools is absolutely necessary, there is too much hate and bigotry...if tolerance training can help counter that I'm all for it.

As for gays adopting children...that is another topic altogether, and one that should have a separate thread.
And what if you don't pass the "tolerance training" class? Off to the gulag you go?? LOL. Gimme a break.
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