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As these children are followed in their life we are going to see how many compared to the past follow traditional lives and how many want to change their bodies, have mental problems or try and kill themselves as half the transgendered people attempt to do.
Yeah, because we all know those mental problems couldn't possibly be the result of how other people treat them and the continued perception that gender is binary and not fluid. Nor a result of trying to live up "gender norms" as forced upon them by family, religion, and society.
Yeah, because we all know those mental problems couldn't possibly be the result of how other people treat them and the continued perception that gender is binary and not fluid. Nor a result of trying to live up "gender norms" as forced upon them by family, religion, and society.
"and the continued perception that gender is binary and not fluid."
And that is the view I have (Gender can be very fluid). The view that there are only people that are born Gay is too rigid and denies any evironmental component. It ignores the fact that there are many Bisexuals who live their life as a Homosexual or people that switch back and forth: Are they just confused?
"and the continued perception that gender is binary and not fluid."
And that is the view I have (Gender can be very fluid). The view that there are only people that are born Gay is too rigid and denies any evironmental component. It ignores the fact that there are many Bisexuals who live their life as a Homosexual or people that switch back and forth: Are they just confused?
I see this more in women than men since the prevalence of the whole "I kissed a girl thing" has had more women playing with both sides of their sexuality than men.
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Yeah, because we all know those mental problems couldn't possibly be the result of how other people treat them and the continued perception that gender is binary and not fluid. Nor a result of trying to live up "gender norms" as forced upon them by family, religion, and society.
If an external force (such as sociatal pressure) can be so powerfull to cause mental isues in people why couldn't an external force such as long term abuse cause a long term affect on a persons sexuality?
Don't get me wrong I know there are plenty of people who are genetically Homosexual and most likely the majority, but people seem to pick and choose the source of the end result to justify their bias
In a move that serves as a significant blow to "ex-gay" programs and anti-gay organizations, Dr. Robert Spitzer repudiated his much-criticized 2001 study that claimed some "highly motivated" homosexuals could go from gay to straight.
Dr. Robert Spitzer Renounces Infamous 'Ex-Gay' Study Claiming Some Gays Could Change, says Truth Wins Out - PR Newswire - The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/11/4406240/dr-robert-spitzer-renounces-infamous.html - broken link)
Big news. I don't think that anyone can really choose their sexuality.
The crap if at all will hit the fan with all the adoptions of children by gays IMO, that is where the action will be, not this.
As these children are followed in their life we are going to see how many compared to the past follow traditional lives and how many want to change their bodies, have mental problems or try and kill themselves as half the transgendered people attempt to do.
We know Chastity Bono was assaulted by a Lesbian as a child and we see what happened to her down the road.
Cause and effect IMO in most cases and the interesting study and science will be in the honest reporting of what happens to the children adopted by gays.
That IMO is where the action is in the future.
If there is a gay gene, would they take a DNA shot to repair themselves?
In any case, gays are mostly nice people (as long and they stay away from tolerance training in schools IMO, too many activists doing the wrong thing there for me to TOLERATE that).
They deserve the right to work and live mostly in peace.
Like I said, most are nice folks.
BUT, we are going to follow the adopted children and that is going to perhaps give the greatest view regarding gays effect on children and society at large.
I hope there is no change and everything stays good. We'll see!
Here's a review of all the studies/literature of children of lesbian and gay parents.
Seems that there is no real difference between children raised by heterosexual parents and children raised by lesbian or gay parents. Except that children of lesbian parents often do better in several areas.
A growing body of scientific literature demonstrates that children who grow up with 1 or 2 gay and/or lesbian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social, and sexual functioning as do children whose parents are heterosexual. Children’s optimal development seems to be influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by the particular structural form it takes.
Overall, the belief that children of lesbian and gay parents suffer deficits in personal development has no empirical foundation. .....
The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual couples. For instance, Flaks, Fischer, Masterpasqua, and Joseph (1995) reported that lesbian couples' parenting awareness skills were stronger than those of heterosexual couples. This was attributed to greater parenting awareness among lesbian nonbiological mothers than among heterosexual fathers. In one study, Brewaeys and her colleagues (1997) likewise reported more favorable patterns of parent-child interaction among lesbian as compared to heterosexual parents, but in another, they found greater similarities (Vanfraussen, Ponjaert-Kristoffersen, & Brewaeys, 2003).
"BUT, we are going to follow the adopted children and that is going to perhaps give the greatest view regarding gays effect on children and society at large.
I hope there is no change and everything stays good. We'll see!"
I would rather see a kid raised by a couple of gay parents who love them then to be passed around from foster home to foster home to be beaten and abused. The facts are already out on what happens to kids in foster care.
If it ends up adopted children of gays want to themselves become gay more than childern in regular families did before, it would suggest they are in a dangerous enviornment and would also suggest a lot of being gay is caused by outside forces.
If these adopted kids by gays want to kill themselves more or have more emotional problems, that also is going to come to light.
Like I said, we'll see. What if they end up having kids thrive more? You never know...
Going to be an eye opener IMO.
Lets hope for the best.
*sigh*
Just like you can't 'pray away the gay', you can't 'gay away' the straight.
In a move that serves as a significant blow to "ex-gay" programs and anti-gay organizations, Dr. Robert Spitzer repudiated his much-criticized 2001 study that claimed some "highly motivated" homosexuals could go from gay to straight.
Dr. Robert Spitzer Renounces Infamous 'Ex-Gay' Study Claiming Some Gays Could Change, says Truth Wins Out - PR Newswire - The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/11/4406240/dr-robert-spitzer-renounces-infamous.html - broken link)
I'm glad he's finally done this.
I remember reading an interview with him several years ago where he admutted that several years after the study he realised that the handful of participants who claimed they had 'changed', had lied.
Not surprising since all the participants were carefully selected from ex-gay ministries and were highly religious.
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