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Old 04-12-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Black Power definition.


Black Power
"Black Power", as a term, is most associated with Stokeley Carmichael, the 1960’s civil rights leader. In fact, "Black Power" had been used as a civil rights rallying phrase by Willie Ricks, an SNCC man, before Carmichael used it on the "March Against Fear". Ricks was so pleased with the response to the phrase that he urged Carmichael to use it in his speeches. However, not even Ricks could have predicted the response of the crowd to the phrase. Each time Carmichael shouted out "What do we want ?", the reply "Black Power" got louder and louder. After June 1966, the call also was used by militants in anti-white rhetoric.

But what did "Black Power" mean ? From the start of its use, there was confusion.

Some African Americans saw it as a cry against the whites who held all the resources in a white-dominated society. All forms of power, but especially political power, lay with whites. There were some African Americans who wanted to use the call as a way of elevating the status of African Americans in society but then dropping such a potentially inflammatory call once this had started as it would serve no positive purpose after that advance. By initially closing ranks, it was believed that African Americans could advance themselves in American society.

However, there were those who believed that "Black Power" was exactly that. The supporters of this belief wanted no integration with whites whatsoever. They wanted a purely black society in which white people were not allowed to trespass. The whole theory of racial integration was rejected. Stokely Carmichael was a believer in this approach. "Black Power" was seen as a way of resurrecting "Black Pride" and African-American culture. Carmichael said in 1966 :

"We have to do what every group in this country did - we gotta take over the community where we outnumber people so we can have decent jobs."
Supporters of "Black Power" as a belief that would keep whites away from blacks, simply did not trust whites. It followed that if whites could not be trusted, then blacks would have to do everything for themselves if they were to control their own political and economic destiny. "If the whites felt abandoned, that was too bad." (Patterson 1996)

The NAACP condemned "Black Power" as a "menace to peace and prosperity………no negro who is fighting for civil rights can support black power, which is opposed to civil rights and integration."

Martin Luther King was more diplomatic in his criticism of the phrase. He believed that the term "Black Power" was

"unfortunate because it tends to give the impression of black nationalism…………black supremacy would be as evil as white supremacy.
Vice-President Hubert Humphrey probably spoke for many Americans, regardless of colour, when he said

"racism is racism - and there is no room in America for racism of any colour."


Black Power
They got their own churches, their own caucus's, their own television, their own culture, their own community, black airline pilots? - when are they going to integrate?
Black Organizations .
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:58 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Big difference between these and obama backed Panthers!
video panthers wielding nightsticks
Black Panthers vs Fox News Reporter At Polling Place In Philadelphia (VIDEO)


Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept.
Published May 29, 2009

Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned.
The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.


Read more: Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept. | Fox News
Obama does nothing special for blacks. It might seem that way to the right that are foaming at the mouth to say "see they are taking over". Some of the disrespectful and bias racist things that when on before may not be happening at the moment and so that may be why some feel we are "getting away with stuff" not true at all.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Denounced and silenced are two completely and totally different things.

But I guess you can't be a liberal racist, and understand that.
Limbaugh delivers the same kind of hate speech that the nbpp delivers except his is daily and to a much bigger and much more accepting audience.

The mega dittos crowd are nothing but white panther party members
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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I recall seeing the web site of the church and all that was listed was black this , black experience, black that.

If a mostly white church did that it would be called racist.
There are many churches in America and in the UCC that are targeted to a specific ethnic and cultural group and no they are not routinely called racist.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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He WAS the pastor of a BLACK church. No amount of denial, on your part, is going to change that.

His BLACK church is affiliated with the UCC, which is a traditionally white DENOMINATION.


You need to get your facts straight.
Deflection.

You used a photograph to "illustrate" your "facts" that he did not have a large percentage of white people in the congregation. I'm merely pointing out that the photo you used as 'proof' only showed the choir, not the entire congregation. Not my fault you don't know what "proof" means.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Limbaugh delivers the same kind of hate speech that the nbpp delivers except his is daily and to a much bigger and much more accepting audience.
when did limbaugh offer 'dead or alive' bounties for anyone, or call anyone the equivalent of a 'honky,' or a 'cracker'?

or walk around outside a polling place with a billyclub?

or say anything even approaching the level of "there are no good crackers, and if you find one, kill him before he changes" ?


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Deflection.

You used a photograph to "illustrate" your "facts" that he did not have a large percentage of white people in the congregation. I'm merely pointing out that the photo you used as 'proof' only showed the choir, not the entire congregation. Not my fault you don't know what "proof" means.
did you see post #88?
kinda makes the point moot.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Yes Uggabugga, the NBP are extremist just like beck and Rush.


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wow
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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that kind of hate is OK with the left. Its the right kind of hate for liberals

Feel better now that you've chimed in with this lie. Why do you people give these idiots any attention?
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Yes Uggabugga, the NBP are extremist just like beck and Rush.
i'll ask you the same thing i asked eecee.

when did beck or limbaugh offer 'dead or alive' bounties for anyone, or call anyone the equivalent of a 'honky,' or a 'cracker'?

or walk around outside a polling place with a billyclub?

or say anything even remotely approaching the level of "there are no good crackers, and if you find one, kill him before he changes" ?

do tell..
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Then why not more Democrat black voters coming out to lambast them for this call to arms?

Because we refuse to acknowledge these idiots, just as we don't acknowledge the KKK that pop up on the scene every once in a while. My lambast as a voter is more suited to the idiots in Washington
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