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Old 04-13-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by claudhopper View Post
that is a lie, but we've got several threads on this topic, this isn't one of them. A Natural born citizen is on US soil, born to 2 US citizens, thus no divided allegiance. Obama's father was Kenyan, a British subject, so Obama is at best a dual citizen, not a natural born citizen.
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

- ankeny v daniels

"The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive."

- georgia ballot challenge, judge malihi


where am i lying claud?

 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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"Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr.Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a “natural born Citizen” regardless of the status of his father."

- purpura/moran v obama, judge masin


where am i lying claud?
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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" ... and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 702-03 (1898) (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV); Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana, 916 N.E.2d 678, 684-88 (Ind. App. 2010) (addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise."

- AZ ballot challenge, allen v obama, judge gordon


where am i lying claud?
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
2 things we know:

1: obama was paying off federal student loans. we know this from his tax returns.

2: federal student loans are not available to foreign students.

are we in agreement so far?
No. Because federal student loans available to eligible foreign students on a valid Visa with an American co-signer.

That said, I don't buy into any of the crazy birther nonsense.

He's a citizen. He graduated from Harvard. He graduated with Honors. He's fairly intelligent. He can be articulate. He's a leftist. And is bad for the country.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Why is insane to want to know the academic record of the President? More importantly, why the desire to hide the academic record?
That's like when I tell the cop he can't search my car, he assumes it's because I have something to hide. I always point out, it's my right, and it implicates nothing more then I know my rights. Usually followed by a sigh, long pause, "I will be right back", finished with either "Sign here for your ticket, not admitting guilt blah blah" or "Have a nice day, be more careful".

Bottom line, it implies nothing.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:29 PM
 
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No. Because federal student loans available to eligible foreign students on a valid Visa with an American co-signer.
interesting. do you have a link by chance? i'm curious about eligibility/requirements.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Ah! I wondered where the daily birther thread was! I'll be right back - gonna make a pot of coffee before i settle in!
 
Old 04-13-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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They just reported this afternoon that he has spent a large sum in the amount of $200,000.00 to keep his records from being released. I can't think of any other president specifically paying money to keep school records from being released. Apparently Harvard is going to offer a one credit course to students about Obama attending Harvard but how can that be when they don't have any study material since his Harvard Law Review articles haven't been released? Ironically the course is called 'Understanding Obama'.


Fox News: Harvard Should Release Obama's Records He Spent $200,000 Hiding - YouTube
Not the first lie FOX ever told, nor the biggest.

Next thread, please.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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interesting. do you have a link by chance? i'm curious about eligibility/requirements.
I just googled "can foreign students get federal student loans" and followed a few links.
 
Old 04-13-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
and.....

"Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr.Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a “natural born Citizen” regardless of the status of his father."

- purpura/moran v obama, judge masin


where am i lying claud?
you know damn well it's NOT regardless of the citizenship of the father. It has everything to do with the citizenship of BOTH parents.
Why are you bringing this issue to this thread? Don't you like this topic anymore?
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