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Old 05-26-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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The people of Joplin are rebulding and with little federal aid, New Orleans is still mostly a zhithole, why?

Costly Joplin tornado raises questions about federal aid
WHAT? No federal aid? No hands out saying GIMME GIMME GIMME? No FEMA trailers?

OMG! Call the national guard.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The entire city isn't below sea level. And the parts of it that are, don't have to be rebuilt.

As far as "where will you relocate", you move to where you can afford to. If you can't afford to live where you are, there is somewhere else that is. Perhaps federal aid could help pay for your transportation.

As far as your house, if you had insurance, then you can buy a house somewhere else. If you didn't, and you're renting, then rent somewhere else.

Its not that difficult.

The port, the quarter, and other areas of town where the city is sat on a much more stable ground will stay. As well as the north shore and slidell areas growing. But rebuilding the lower ninth, etc, is stupid.

The north shore suffered storm surge from Katrina running from a couple feet at the Causeway at Mandeville to over 20 ft. at Slidell. Looks like you'll have to move them too.

And, I like the way you just sort of casually toss off the idea that everyone will have to pay for their own relocation and lose any investments they might have in home equity or business facilities. I'm sure everyone will be able to take that economic hit, right? Take the "Times-Picayune," for instance. They've got printing and distribution facilities worth hundreds of millions of dollars, but they can probably just eat that and rebuild somewhere else, right?

And that's just one example.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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WHAT? No federal aid? No hands out saying GIMME GIMME GIMME? No FEMA trailers?

OMG! Call the national guard.

Trust me. Federal aid has poured into Joplin and, yes, there are people living in FEMA trailers. I've seen them myself.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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New Orleans has already lost half its population. Most of the citizens in New Orleans are unproductive.
Most of them? Care to prove that statement?

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The French Quarter and Business District didn't flood. Much of the city hasn't seen a white person since the storm.
Ya don't say. Here's Bourbon Street:
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The north shore suffered storm surge from Katrina running from a couple feet at the Causeway at Mandeville to over 20 ft. at Slidell. Looks like you'll have to move them too.

And, I like the way you just sort of casually toss off the idea that everyone will have to pay for their own relocation and lose any investments they might have in home equity or business facilities. I'm sure everyone will be able to take that economic hit, right? Take the "Times-Picayune," for instance. They've got printing and distribution facilities worth hundreds of millions of dollars, but they can probably just eat that and rebuild somewhere else, right?

And that's just one example.
Oh but not nearly as bad as the crescent area was hit. Hurricanes aren't the problem, the water blows in, the water comes out.

Its building below sea level, where you constantly have to keep the water out.

Like Destin and Biloxi, Slidell and the north shore don't need levys 100% of the time, New Orleans does.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh but not nearly as bad as the crescent area was hit. Hurricanes aren't the problem, the water blows in, the water comes out.

Its building below sea level, where you constantly have to keep the water out.

Like Destin and Biloxi, Slidell and the north shore don't need levys 100% of the time, New Orleans does.

Yep, but you still haven't said how much you're willing to spend to move them all. (Hint: It will be far, far more expensive than just maintaing the levees.)
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Yep, but you still haven't said how much you're willing to spend to move them all. (Hint: It will be far, far more expensive than just maintaing the levees.)
Oh no it wouldn't be far to expensive. Levy upkeep has a much higher cost then a 100 dollar one way ticket to anywhere, one time fee.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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The people of Joplin are rebulding and with little federal aid, New Orleans is still mostly a zhithole, why?

Costly Joplin tornado raises questions about federal aid
They are getting $500 million in Federal aid. Probably as much per person as NOLA did. Not that many people live in Joplin. And they are a long way from "rebuilding". They have done a good job of cleaning and clearing but the place seems to be mostly empty lots now from what I saw on TV. But I am sure the people there are resilent and will rebuild if they stayed there. Some people probably just moved away.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh no it wouldn't be far to expensive. Levy upkeep has a much higher cost then a 100 dollar one way ticket to anywhere, one time fee.
Give about a million people a one-way, $100 ticket and that's that? They take nothing with them they can't carry and when they get someplace else...well, that's not your problem is it?

You're not even trying to make sense.

Question: Should we abandon Galveston, TX too? After all, it has to have sea wall to keep the ocean out.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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They are getting $500 million in Federal aid. Probably as much per person as NOLA did. Not that many people live in Joplin. And they are a long way from "rebuilding". They have done a good job of cleaning and clearing but the place seems to be mostly empty lots now from what I saw on TV. But I am sure the people there are resilent and will rebuild if they stayed there. Some people probably just moved away.

You don't have any trouble following the track of that storm. There's still a cleared path through the heart of the city. Heck, you can seen see it on Google Earth. When you zoom down to that brown streak right across town, you see the damage done, but if you move the little man to street view, you see those neighborhoods before the storm.
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