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Old 05-26-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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The people of Joplin are rebulding and with little federal aid, New Orleans is still mostly a zhithole, why?

Costly Joplin tornado raises questions about federal aid
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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The people of Joplin are rebulding and with little federal aid, New Orleans is still mostly a zhithole, why?

Costly Joplin tornado raises questions about federal aid

With little federal aid? I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the article you linked to, did you?
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Joplin isn't below sea level. The odds it'll be struck by another tornado even half that powerful is minimal.

Spending money on New Orleans is a waste. Its like building a wall in the center of your bath tub to keep dry. Whats the point?
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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Joplin isn't below sea level. The odds it'll be struck by another tornado even half that powerful is minimal.

Spending money on New Orleans is a waste. Its like building a wall in the center of your bath tub to keep dry. Whats the point?
Come up with a plan to move all those people and all those businesses to somewhere else and I might agree with you. It's going to be particularly difficult to move the nation's second busiest port to some place away from the ocean, wouldn't you say?
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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New Orleans is more like Havana, Cuba than like Joplin.

Any money thrown to help New Orleans will be pocketed by local politicians. New Orleans makes Chicago politics look honest.

Most of the obvious reasons are never mentioned.

New Orleans is America's greatest city.



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The people of Joplin are rebulding and with little federal aid, New Orleans is still mostly a zhithole, why?

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Old 05-26-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Come up with a plan to move all those people and all those businesses to somewhere else and I might agree with you. It's going to be particularly difficult to move the nation's second busiest port to some place away from the ocean, wouldn't you say?
There are tons of other areas and land for those people to live at.

Many of the pre-Katrina people haven't returned. Those that live there now didn't live there before. Looking to make a quick dollar with cheap cost of living.

There are always other areas to move to. No one had to rebuild a city underwater. The problem will just get worse as time goes on.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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There are tons of other areas and land for those people to live at.

Many of the pre-Katrina people haven't returned. Those that live there now didn't live there before. Looking to make a quick dollar with cheap cost of living.

There are always other areas to move to. No one had to rebuild a city underwater. The problem will just get worse as time goes on.
Ok, fine. Tell me just exactly where you plan to re-locate the million or so people in the urban area. How much are you willing to spend to build roads, sewer systems, water lines, the electric grid. Will you pay for their houses too, not only the ones they'll have to live in, but the ones they leave behind? What about the thousands of small businesses? Gonna pay for their existing inventory and re-stock them, or pay to have it moved?

Oh...and what about that port? What are gonna do, move it farther up river? To where? Any land along the river below Baton Rouge is already taken and it you plan to move it north of that, you're gonna have to dredge out a channel and keep it dredged forever AND replace some really massive bridges which won't now allow ocean-going vessels to pass beneath them.

With even a modicum of intelligence, you've got to realize that moving or abandoning New Orleans would bankrupt the whole country. It would be a horrendously costly and intricate undertaking which literally could not be done.

But, what the hey? It sounds good, doesn't it?
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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. Those that live there now didn't live there before. Looking to make a quick dollar with cheap cost of living.
Have you ever even been to New Orleans?
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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Ok, fine. Tell me just exactly where you plan to re-locate the million or so people in the urban area. How much are you willing to spend to build roads, sewer systems, water lines, the electric grid. Will you pay for their houses too, not only the ones they'll have to live in, but the ones they leave behind? What about the thousands of small businesses? Gonna pay for their existing inventory and re-stock them, or pay to have it moved?

Oh...and what about that port? What are gonna do, move it farther up river? To where? Any land along the river below Baton Rouge is already taken and it you plan to move it north of that, you're gonna have to dredge out a channel and keep it dredged forever AND replace some really massive bridges which won't now allow ocean-going vessels to pass beneath them.

With even a modicum of intelligence, you've got to realize that moving or abandoning New Orleans would bankrupt the whole country. It would be a horrendously costly and intricate undertaking which literally could not be done.

But, what the hey? It sounds good, doesn't it?

The entire city isn't below sea level. And the parts of it that are, don't have to be rebuilt.

As far as "where will you relocate", you move to where you can afford to. If you can't afford to live where you are, there is somewhere else that is. Perhaps federal aid could help pay for your transportation.

As far as your house, if you had insurance, then you can buy a house somewhere else. If you didn't, and you're renting, then rent somewhere else.

Its not that difficult.

The port, the quarter, and other areas of town where the city is sat on a much more stable ground will stay. As well as the north shore and slidell areas growing. But rebuilding the lower ninth, etc, is stupid.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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New Orleans has already lost half its population. Most of the citizens in New Orleans are unproductive.

The French Quarter and Business District didn't flood. Much of the city hasn't seen a white person since the storm.

New Orleans will always be a popular tourist definition.



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Ok, fine. Tell me just exactly where you plan to re-locate the million or so people in the urban area. How much are you willing to spend to build roads, sewer systems, water lines, the electric grid. Will you pay for their houses too, not only the ones they'll have to live in, but the ones they leave behind? What about the thousands of small businesses? Gonna pay for their existing inventory and re-stock them, or pay to have it moved?

Oh...and what about that port? What are gonna do, move it farther up river? To where? Any land along the river below Baton Rouge is already taken and it you plan to move it north of that, you're gonna have to dredge out a channel and keep it dredged forever AND replace some really massive bridges which won't now allow ocean-going vessels to pass beneath them.

With even a modicum of intelligence, you've got to realize that moving or abandoning New Orleans would bankrupt the whole country. It would be a horrendously costly and intricate undertaking which literally could not be done.

But, what the hey? It sounds good, doesn't it?
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