Anti-Catholicism on the rise in U.S., Europe

[Charles45]

Originally Posted by Macaw1981

Ok? So? What is the problem again? Are you still not getting it? The Catholic Church can discriminate against gays and adopt...it just can not get state funds to do it with. The Catholic Church can hold true to its morals of no abortion but it will not get federal government contracts for human trafficking. So stop the whining.

And the result? Hundreds of children will not be placed at all; hundreds of others will be placed in morally corrosive environments; hundreds of sex-slaves will not be rescued at all; and hundreds of others may be persuaded to kill their unborn babies. All in the name of sticking it to the Catholic Church.

We're not whining, just paying attention.

[chielgirl]

Originally Posted by Big George

Did I say "Catholics are not Christians"? No, I didn't, did I?

I said, "Catholics are not necessarily Christians." And I'll stand by that statement. The fact that some priest threw some water on your head when you were a baby does NOT make you a Christian.

Catholics were the original christians.
Martin Luther, Jan Huss, etc. removed themselves from that sect and created others.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[chielgirl]

Originally Posted by Big George

I probably know 10x as much about the dogmas and practices AND HISTORY of the Roman Catholic Church than you do.

Ah, yes, you know more than anyone, we get it.

Don't all religious people raise their kids in some whack belief?
They're all delusional (religious believers), so who cares...

They all have ritual and rites.
The catholics were just the first.

Remember, from them came the bible you all worship.

All Abrahamic based religions are hate filled and have killed in the name of their religion.

[chielgirl]

Originally Posted by Charles45

And the result? Hundreds of children will not be placed at all; hundreds of others will be placed in morally corrosive environments; hundreds of sex-slaves will not be rescued at all; and hundreds of others may be persuaded to kill their unborn babies. All in the name of sticking it to the Catholic Church.

We're not whining, just paying attention.

And the catholic church can bear shame and responsibility for that.
Who does their jebus hate?
Unborn babies, feh.
Rip it out and see if it can live on its own without being a parasite.

The requirements for state funding are in the rules, catholics just like to flaunt their power and victimhood to promote hatred and bigotry.
They can have funding if they play by the rules.
Oh well.

Nice to see an apologist without reasoning skills.
Agenda much?

[Charles45]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

Rip it out and see if it can live on its own without being a parasite.

^^^ This is all anyone needs to know about your views. Thanks for the clarity.

[Charles45]

Originally Posted by helenejen

This is why there is a shortage of priests? You don't think that has more to do with the celibacy requirement?

There was no shortage of priests before the Second Vatican Council. Vocations were plentiful and seminaries were full, celibacy requirements and all. Today, the most orthodox dioceses and seminaries also have no shortage of vocations.

You have to understand male psychology. Men need to be challenged, they need a good fight. Celibacy has always been a welcome challenge for normal Catholic men wanting to serve the Church. Remove the celibacy requirement and men will prefer watching football after an early Mass.

The present vocations shortage is due, quite simply, to a post-conciliar crisis of faith among Catholics and a shortage of children due to contracepting Catholic families. The witch hunt climate only exacerbates the problem.