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Old 06-14-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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You have any clue at all, there is a big difference between median and average. Middle class income on average are flat.

Then why not show us? Do you really expect us to just believe you? The great record that you have on this board?

Oh, and not some blog, not some leftist website, not some friends website.....lets see something from the BLS, or a .GOV site like I have provided.

And please tell us, what your definition of of Median is and Average is.

This should be REALLY good....
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:46 PM
 
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LMAO! Here are those Union members the GOP is spouting left the Union!!

When students return Thursday for the first day of school across Wisconsin, many familiar faces will be gone, as teachers chose retirement over coming back in the wake of a new law that forces them to pay more for benefits while taking away most of their collective bargaining rights.
Documents obtained by the Associated Press under the state’s open records law show that about twice as many public school teachers decided to hang it up in the first half of this year as in each of the past two full years, part of a mass exit of public employees.

Their departures came before the new law took effect, changes pushed by Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican Legislature that led to weeks of protests at the Capitol.

The ensuing exodus of teachers and other state employees has led to fears that the jobs might not be filled, and that classroom leadership by veteran teachers will be lost.

Ginny Fleck, a German teacher from Green Bay with 30 years of experience, is among nearly 5,000 teachers who retired.

“It wouldn’t make sense for me to teach one more year and basically lose $8,000,” she said. Fleck, 69, decided to retire in February, even before the bill became law, in part because of the hit she would take to her $60,000 annual salary, and because of other changes the district was making.

In the first six months of 2011, overall public employee retirements were double that in all of either 2009 or 2010, according to data provided to the AP by the Wisconsin Retirement System. That includes 4,935 Wisconsin school district employees who started receiving retirement benefits, up from 2,527 teacher retirements in all of 2010 and 2,417 in 2009.

Teachers weren’t the only ones heading for the exits.
Wisconsin teacher retirements double after cuts to benefits and collective bargaining | eSchool News
Good. They won't have to lay off so many younger teachers who bring energy and new ways of thinking into the class so that a 69 year old can stay. I don't see this as a bad thing.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Then why not show us? Do you really expect us to just believe you? The great record that you have on this board?

Oh, and not some blog, not some leftist website, not some friends website.....lets see something from the BLS, or a .GOV site like I have provided.

And please tell us, what your definition of of Median is and Average is.

This should be REALLY good....
LOL, looking for a vacation?

Median: Denoting or relating to a value or quantity lying at the midpoint of a frequency distribution of observed values or quantities, such...: "the median duration was four months"

Average: The result obtained by adding several quantities together and then dividing this total by the number of quantities; the mean.

Let me know if you need more schooling, so you know median does NOT equal average.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:01 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Because then the position becomes politicized. Each new administration that comes in comes up with different standards as to what is a good teacher and what isn't. Teachers are never able to buy a house and become a part of the community because they constantly worry about keeping their job.

It's a stupid idea.

If you are self employed, you have a contract that your business uses.
How can that be politicized?
New Standards are usually in the Contract that you will teach to Standard, or your scope of the contract may never be accepted and you won't have work.
You fulfill, or exceed your contract and you get, to be resigned, or even better, you are being fought over for your talent, at a price you can pretty much pick.

Are you saying self employed people are not able to buy a house?
You know how ignorant that sounds?
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:47 PM
 
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Looks like a bunch of spoiled brats took their ball and went home. That's gotta be saving taxpayers a lot of money.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:51 PM
 
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I hope Obama will treat this like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. Come back to work or lose your job and someone else will replace you. Get teachers in other states to come teach, bet they would not be short for any takers.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:36 AM
 
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If you are self employed, you have a contract that your business uses.
How can that be politicized?
New Standards are usually in the Contract that you will teach to Standard, or your scope of the contract may never be accepted and you won't have work.
You fulfill, or exceed your contract and you get, to be resigned, or even better, you are being fought over for your talent, at a price you can pretty much pick.

Are you saying self employed people are not able to buy a house?
You know how ignorant that sounds?
Self employed people have more than one place they can seek employment. If you are a self employed painter there are thousands upon thousands of potential employers. If you are a teacher, you might have 2-3 but basically one.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:37 AM
 
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I hope Obama will treat this like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. Come back to work or lose your job and someone else will replace you. Get teachers in other states to come teach, bet they would not be short for any takers.
This is none of Obama's business. He has no reason to get involved.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Here is post #87:



There is nothing alleged, they are not teaching for a reason.

Post 109:



What is alleged in post 109?



If you cannot talk it, how can I read it, see below, post 135.









O.K., I'll give you that one...2 are complaining, not one....







You must once again be able to write in English, for someone to understand it.
Most people did understand it, but you couldn't. I wonder why???...most educated people can piece together mis spelled words in order to comprehend the message of the text.

Your inability to do so is telling.

Further all of the allegations against the teachers are "allegded" untill the conclusion of their disciplinary processes or verdict by a court of law.

I mean, Jesus, do have have to be spoon fed common sense..
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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LOL, looking for a vacation?

Median: Denoting or relating to a value or quantity lying at the midpoint of a frequency distribution of observed values or quantities, such...: "the median duration was four months"

Average: The result obtained by adding several quantities together and then dividing this total by the number of quantities; the mean.

Let me know if you need more schooling, so you know median does NOT equal average.
Why are you helping to make him appear the dullard??...
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