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Old 06-23-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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Your analogy doesn't make sense. You are completely confusing emotional and sexual attraction towards adults, with acts of sexual abuse of children.

And there is no evidence that Sandusky has any attraction to adult males.

According to the past 60 years of research in this field, most men who molest young boys typically have an aversion to adult males and are either sexually attracted to adult females (regressed pedophiles) or not attracted to any adults of either gender, only to children (fixated pedophile). It's only rarely that a male who has an adult homosexual sexual orientation, sexually molests young boys.

Are you claiming that all men who molest young boys have an adult homosexual sexual orientation?

Are you claiming that men with an adult heterosexual sexual orientation never sexually molest young boys?

60 years of research (including phallometric testing) shows you are wrong.
You are missing the point...he is plowing the SAME SEX, regardless of age. If he was straight, he'd be punching holes into people of the OPPOSITE SEX! He likes anal sex with members of his own gender, homosexuals like anal sex with members of their own gender. The ONLY difference is Jerry prefers his butts to be far less "experienced".

 
Old 06-23-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I know MANY homosexual men, and about half of the older ones were married to women and have children. They (like Sandusky) tried to conform to the social mores when they were younger.

Sandusky did not molest young girls, right? This makes him a homosexual pedofile.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Sandusky is a PEODOPHILE...HE LIKES YOUNG BOYS! Being homosexual is a choice, how a person chooses to live sexually. This guy likes kids and when he gets to jail those big old mean guys will show him what happens to guys who like kids. I hope he doesn't get protective custody..he is a sick, sick man.
Then why did Sandusky choose young boys over young girls? Since you hate homosexuals so much would you hate Sandusky less if he, instead, chose young girls?

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Old 06-23-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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No. There are different types of 'pedophiles'. A minority of 'pedophiles' (it varies between 7% and 30% over the large range of studies) don't have an adult sexual orientation at all. The rest do.

If anyone hasn't heard of the terms 'fixated' or 'exclusive' pedophiles and 'regressed' or 'non-exclusive' pedophiles, then they haven't done any research at all on the topic.
Or is it simply because even pedophiles want to have a normal socially approved life or a cover so they get married, have kids etc. Wasnt that a case with many gays even 50 years ago?
Either you are attracted to and seek contact with vaginas or with penises. Age of a partner does not change a thing.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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I was giving some thought to whether or not it is a sexual orientation and ran across this.
Is Pedophilia a Sexual Orientation? A Psychologist Breaks Down What Makes a Jerry Sandusky - News - GOOD

My personal opinion is, that it is a sexual orientation, because they are attracted to children only, but I suppose you could separate it into homosexual and non homosexual.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The dude is a homosexual!! Period!! One that likes kids ......MALE kids!!!
I would seriously take Sandusky's wife opinion on whether he is a homosexual, or not, but certainly not yours.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Sandusky is not a homosexual. He is a married man.
So was former (N.J.) Gov. Jim McGreevey.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I know MANY homosexual men, and about half of the older ones were married to women and have children. They (like Sandusky) tried to conform to the social mores when they were younger.
Then it is just as obvious as it can be that they really are NOT homosexuals. Instead they are bisexuals. We would be surprised by the number of bisexuals in society. There is no doubt more of them than there are homosexuals. F@g hags would surely agree. They delight how half, or more, of the young "gay" men want to have sex with them.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Jaymax View Post
Your analogy doesn't make sense. You are completely confusing emotional and sexual attraction towards adults, with acts of sexual abuse of children.

And there is no evidence that Sandusky has any attraction to adult males.

According to the past 60 years of research in this field, most men who molest young boys typically have an aversion to adult males and are either sexually attracted to adult females (regressed pedophiles) or not attracted to any adults of either gender, only to children (fixated pedophile). It's only rarely that a male who has an adult homosexual sexual orientation, sexually molests young boys.

Are you claiming that all men who molest young boys have an adult homosexual sexual orientation?

Are you claiming that men with an adult heterosexual sexual orientation never sexually molest young boys?

60 years of research (including phallometric testing) shows you are wrong.
Where the abused people male or female?

A pedophile is just a person who preys on people weak enough for them to control, the chosen gender is their gender of preference. In this pervert's case, he was a homosexual, who was too cowardly to act out his sexual desires of domination on adults.

To answer your question, you do not have sex with boys unless you prefer that gender, or at the minimum are not sexually aroused by that gender.

Cite all the studies you like, a man who molests boys is a homosexual and/or a bisexual.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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He had teen boy victims, too, though, didn't he? Some say boys are particularly attractive to pedophiles once their hormones start coming online.
That would depend on the individual and what age they are fixated on. Some like four year olds. Some like fourteen year olds. Neither are adults. Much has to do with what caused them to become pedophiles and identify with children over adults, and what age the abuse occured. Abuse is usually somewhere at the core, but does not have to be sexual.

This does NOT believe I think they are 'excused', by the way. A moral compass exists, and though who abused them shares the responsibility they too have the responsibility of NOT acting on their impulses, and finding help before there is anything to prosecute.

Grooming is also a part of the process, and access in a trusted setting is necessary so boys are more available, and far far less likely to tell than girls because of the extreme shame placed upon them as part of the grooming by their abuser.
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