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The only reason the "gun walking" was allowed to happen was b/c of 3 laws the nra and gun lobby pushed.
Gun sales at gun shows are legal
Gun transfers after the sale are legal
Gun transfers are only illegal if you have proof that the intent of the purchase was to commit a crime
Even calling the op gun walking is a lie, since those guns were legal purchases b/c of the above.
So Conservatives either need top drop the faux outrage, trumped up charges, and partisan bs our jon hands w those that want to enact common sense regulations on gun sales.
So, this administration was showing us the NRA is the problem and this is why we should rid America of guns and their supporter's. What a plan...........
So, this administration was showing us the NRA is the problem and this is why we should rid America of guns and their supporter's. What a plan...........
So you're agreeing that the laws that NRA pushed thru, were a problem (or, aren't, until they are used). But then, this administration followed what Bush administration started.
Now, if you want to discuss the stupidity in the idea and especially the execution of it, then we may have something in common.
The only reason the "gun walking" was allowed to happen was b/c of 3 laws the nra and gun lobby pushed.
Gun sales at gun shows are legal
Gun transfers after the sale are legal
Gun transfers are only illegal if you have proof that the intent of the purchase was to commit a crime
Even calling the op gun walking is a lie, since those guns were legal purchases b/c of the above.
So Conservatives either need top drop the faux outrage, trumped up charges, and partisan bs our jon hands w those that want to enact common sense regulations on gun sales.
The entire premise of the OP is an outright intentional falsehood.
Operation Fast & Furious broke every major federal firearms law on the books. It was not "allowed" to happen; it was an illegal activity wholly funded and prosecuted by the DOJ and the agencies under it including but not limited to: BATFE, ICE, DEA, IRS. BATFE forced FFL's to complete purchases by individuals who failed the NICs background check. BATFE traffiked firearms, including full auto (not transferable ones or with the required federal stamp) and grenades across the US Southern border without a waiver by the Dept. of State or the knowledge and permission of the Mexican government. Unlike with previous administration sting operations there were no attempts to follow the arms once they were sold to known straw purchasers, felons, and cartel members.
So now were commies. Yesterday we were racists. What'll it be next week?
And you people are despicable for aiding in Holders cover up. He release the docs, we get answers and it goes away. Its that simple. You put party and race above truth and justice
The only reason the "gun walking" was allowed to happen was b/c of 3 laws the nra and gun lobby pushed.
Wow, you have that wrong.
First, and as has been mentioned already, it wasn't "allowed" to happen. It was intentional. Second, the agencies involved knowingly and intentionally purchased the weapons using a straw purchaser, which itself is a crime.
In other words, they had to break the law in order to even get started with the "gun walking" process.
This isn't a left/right issue, or at least, it shouldn't be. EVERY citizen - including you - should be extremely ticked off at your elected officials for not only botching the operation, but for planning and executing it in the first place!
Take your own faux outrage and bring it to the kindergarten playground, where it belongs.
Here is the long and short of this,
There is a back ground check at Gun shows if they are a dealer, this is not the problem, the problems is this, I can in Kansas, Iowa, and many other states like AZ and Texas go into a gun shop buy an AR15 and then say as I step out, you know I just don't like this gun because its not the correct shade of black. Now you can legally sell that gun to jo blow you just meet on the street and there is not BG check on Jo Blow. He could be a buyer for the Mexican drug cartel, he could be a felon who wants a gun and can not pass a BG check. He could have been just discharged from a mental hospital and no one knows until the shooting starts.
The thing is the AGs office or AFT did not sell one damn gun to anyone. All they did was track gun shops who sold unusual amounts of guns like AKs and ARs to single people time and time again and some of these were then resold to criminals. The ATF could do Little as it is very hard to know that a person is a straw buyer where that person is buying with the intent to resell to others who can not legally buy or if they just changed their mind. The current law kept ATF from doing anything, now this was all brought up by Mike Vanderboegh who became famous in tea bagger circles as the "throw bricks through their windows" Idiot. This is where fast and fictishouls came from.
When you have to whip up support among the kool aid drinkers you don't have much of case. Every poll puts the big O ahead of the outsource guy in every swing state. It looks a lot like Christmas.
So lets get this right, Obama knew he would be president so he secretly convinced Bush 2 to start a program to watch gun trafficing, so he could not stop it when he was president so it would make the American people so afraid of Mexican gun violence that they would vote for gun ban's. Wow tin foil must be in short supply in tea bagger land.
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