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What about illegal aliens who WILL keep using the ER as ther a primary care doctors? Many hospitals - especially close to the border - have gone bankrupt because of it.
The biggest positive to this bill is that poor people will have much greater access to medical care - how people can consider that a negative is beyond me.
The positives are heavily outweighed by the negatives.
Let's also make one thing perfectly clear. This is not - repeat, NOT a health care law. This is a health INSURANCE law.
NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO LOWER THE COST OF ACTUAL CARE. Read that sentence again, and again, and keep reading it until you understand it.
I could get behind a bill that would address the actual COST of health care. $35k to deliver a baby? Too much. $20 for an aspirin? Too much. What does Obama's health insurance law do to address things like this? Nothing.
The cheerleaders that think that care will become more affordable are just dumb blondes partaking in yet another high school popularity contest. They don't understand that the team they're cheering for is breaking the rules in order to win the game, and that winning means that the school will eventually be demolished.
The biggest positive to this bill is that poor people will have much greater access to medical care - how people can consider that a negative is beyond me.
And those who can't afford medical care, the government will subsidize the cost of health insurance, all the way up to $44,000 a year for individuals. Companies with over 50 employees will be required to provide health insurance to their employees - people before profit$ is never a bad thing.
In short, this bill is a landmark piece of legislation that will help pave the way to a more humane, prosperous and equitable future for this great country.
Just in case you don't understand it, and I'm pretty sure you don't, WHO, exactly do you think the government gets money from? Take a guess.............
And no, it doesn't come from obama's stash.
As to your nonsense about companies with over 50 employees..............you're bat**** crazy if you think those employees will be insured. Companies will pay the fine and employees will be on their own.
And to make matters worse, they will include the cost of the fine into their products and YOU will get to pay more for their products.
Lord, it's just not that hard to figure out.
06-29-2012, 03:47 PM
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A few pros:
1. Everyone who can pay, will pay. Sticking everyone else with the bill is going to become significantly more difficult. This is a huge win for personal responsibility, which of course the GOP detests, except when they're proposing it.
2. Everyone will be able to get coverage. It's the right thing to do, and makes it easier for people with pre-existing conditions to do crazy things like start their own businesses, since they'll no longer be turned down when trying to buy insurance.
3. Insurance companies have to use 80-85% of premiums to pay for healthcare. If they don't, they have to return money to their customers. This means about a billion dollars being returned to customers this year.
No, there are going to be less jobs and hurt the employees in the hospitals. Sorry :/
Do you have any idea how many new bureaucratic offices have been created to provide regulations for installation of this law? The last I heard was 54 new offices to write regulations beyond what HHS has written. Now all those people have to be paid for doing their jobs. They were not the government employees Obama claimed to have had to lay off.
Not one of those jobs I talk about has anything to do with improving health care, just how to regulate under the ACA. Yep, we don't gain anything but those new IRS agents will have lots of help in writing rules and regs.
1) So the poor folks were getting coverage without paying previously.....hmmmmmm.....you do realize that we the people were paying for them right?
2) Agreed.
3) Yes. Yes they are.
So your point #1 was invalid that never changed so it is no gain.
2 we agreed thats fine.
3. So prosperous how? The only real winner in this is the insurance companies. The middle class will foot the bill as always . So the people who already were insured gain nothing except higher premiums and or taxes.
THANK YOU! I've been saying this for 2 years now...why don't people realize that EVERYONE now does have health care, a lot of people just don't pay for it, and our insurance premiums are higher because of it. This is just a 6 of one, half dozen of the other. But OHHHHH it's SOCIALISM!!!!! Good lord I'm gonna move to Canada I swear.
Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way. If you really believe what you say they would like to have you.
1. Everyone who can pay, will pay. Sticking everyone else with the bill is going to become significantly more difficult. This is a huge win for personal responsibility, which of course the GOP detests.
2. Everyone will be able to get coverage. It's the right thing to do, and makes it easier for people with pre-existing conditions to do crazy things like start their own businesses, since they'll no longer be turned down when trying to buy insurance.
3. Insurance companies have to use 80-85% of premiums to pay for healthcare. If they don't, they have to return money to their customers. This means about a billion dollars being returned to customers this year.
Oh, that's a good one. The GOP hates personal responsibility? That's a good one.
It's conservatives/GOP who despise people who don't assume personal responsibility. You know.....those who have more kids than they can afford and suck the teat to get by. Those who sit on their couches eating twinkies while conservatives work and pay taxes to support the lazy azzes.
Someone mixed something really bad into your Koolaid.
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