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Old 03-02-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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Not so. Most identify with being Mexican, latino even when they look white. That's obviously only am opinion but one I've seen countless times. Most white, mestizo mix females also seem to prefer mestizo darker men.

This isn't no lie but obviously I can only speak for socal ( 1 in 4 interracial marriages are in California, 67% involve mestizos/whites)

Also, stats wise, what's been proven about these couples. When white men marry mestizo females, they are economically, less viable. In my opinion, most the white males I've seen with latinas, are with immigrant latinas, who don't speak English.

Meanwhile, when I've seen white females, with mestizos, they are usually very attractive and with an American born latino. The stats also prove the white female/ male latino mixes are also upwards in economics.

I don't want to sound bias man but latinas who marry white guys are generally unattractive, while white females who marry latino men are generally attractive.
Funny since IN LatAm: the more "white" the better; the "brown" people even IN Mexico have the rep of being lower class. Word it's the same with even Spanish speaking Hispanics in the US.

 
Old 03-02-2014, 10:13 PM
 
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Funny since IN LatAm: the more "white" the better; the "brown" people even IN Mexico have the rep of being lower class. Word it's the same with even Spanish speaking Hispanics in the US.
White guy, unproportionate features. No love . White guy , dark featured fine featured , much love. Latinas, Asians, whites, everyone prefers that look. Why you think Italians assimilated so quickly. I'm fine featured, during winter when I'm lighter I get half the attention than when I look like a dark latino. White women and latina females Both generally prefer darker men in my opinion.

I've read some stuff on why that is.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 10:19 PM
 
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With Ted Cruz as an exhibit, I'd say no. The guy who runs the restaurant down the street from me, HE is the most assimilated. He has no axe to grind except to keep his business afloat.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 07:51 AM
 
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Do some digging it will be good for you.

Fact: mestizos accounted for the majority of mixed race births and marriages. In fact whites only mixed with this group in USA.

Fact: whites only married out with mestizos in the American Southwest, whites rarely married out in any other US region.

Fact: mestizo men, in absolute terms had the highest outmixing of any group, by far. Without mestizos in USA America would have very little mixing as a whole.

Fact: mestizos had 5x as many outmarriages, as blacks, 3x as many as Asians, and percentage wise only whites married out in absolute most terms due to 5x the amount of people.
Fact: mestizo males have proportion wise a way bigger share of mixing then do white males.

Fact: the largest groups to mix interracially are mestizos and white females. In absolute terms 1.1_1.3 million of these marriages exist. This is not counting, out of marriage births.

Do some digging? Show your work. Put up, or shut up. NO links support your "findings and facts" above. None.


You seem to live in a strange world where 25% of "mestizo men" marry out, and the corresponding 25% of mestizo women... what.... never find someone to marry? That's the kind of imbalance present in the black community (where more black women are likely to report not marrying) and Asian community, amongst males.


FACT: White MEN marry out more than white WOMEN.

FACT: Hispanic WOMEN marry out more than Hispanic MEN.

FACT: Black MEN marry out more than black WOMEN.

FACT: Asian WOMEN marry out more than Asian MEN.


FACT: In terms of PROPORTIONS, white folks marry out the LEAST out of anyone else. They have less incentive to marry out, and more ready access to people of their own ethnic group in most parts of the country.

Minorities will always be faced with a shortage of their "own kind" in most situations, and will have more opportunity to interact and form a relationship with someone of a different race - usually white, though combinations of all types are becoming more prevalent.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ml?ref=us&_r=0

FURTHER:

Among all newlyweds, 9.4% of whites, 17.1% of blacks, 25.7% of Hispanics and 27.7% of Asians married someone whose race or ethnicity was different from their own.

Gender patterns in intermarriage vary widely. Some 24% of all black male newlyweds in 2010 married outside their race, compared with just 9% of black female newlyweds. Among Asians, the gender pattern runs the other way. Some 36% of Asian female newlyweds married outside their race in 2010, compared with just 17% of Asian male newlyweds. Among whites and Hispanics, by contrast, there are no gender differences in intermarriage rates.

2010 Pew Community Research Survey: 2010 Pew Research Center Report (U.S. Census Bureau’s 2010 American Community Survey)

http://pewsocialtrends.org/files/201...rrying-out.pdf

Next:


Of the 275,500 new intermarried pairings in 2010, 43.3% were White-Hispanic (compared to White-Asian at 14.4%, White-Black at 11.9%, and Other Combinations at 30.4%; other combinations consists of pairings between different minority groups, multi-racial people, and American Indians).[137] Unlike blacks and Asians, intermarriage rates between White and Hispanic newlyweds do not vary by gender. The combined median earnings of White/Hispanic couples are lower than those of White/White couples but higher than those of Hispanic/Hispanic couples. 23% of Hispanic men who married White women have a college degree compared to only 10% of Hispanic men who married a Hispanic woman. 33% of Hispanic women who married a White husband are college-educated compared to 13% of Hispanic women who married a Hispanic man.

The Rise of Intermarriage - Page 2 | Pew Research Center

You want to take a gander at whether the fresh off the boat mestizos from Chiapas are college educated?


And FINALLY, Hispanic is NOT a race. And the more "Mestizos" marry WHITES, the less and less phenotypically "Indian" their offspring will become. The average Mexican is already hovering 50%+ European mixture.

At some point, cut off from fresh immigration the population of the American SW US would look very similar to TRUE Latin countries.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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Do some digging? Show your work. Put up, or shut up. NO links support your "findings and facts" above. None.


You seem to live in a strange world where 25% of "mestizo men" marry out, and the corresponding 25% of mestizo women... what.... never find someone to marry? That's the kind of imbalance present in the black community (where more black women are likely to report not marrying) and Asian community, amongst males.


FACT: White MEN marry out more than white WOMEN.

FACT: Hispanic WOMEN marry out more than Hispanic MEN.

FACT: Black MEN marry out more than black WOMEN.

FACT: Asian WOMEN marry out more than Asian MEN.


FACT: In terms of PROPORTIONS, white folks marry out the LEAST out of anyone else. They have less incentive to marry out, and more ready access to people of their own ethnic group in most parts of the country.

Minorities will always be faced with a shortage of their "own kind" in most situations, and will have more opportunity to interact and form a relationship with someone of a different race - usually white, though combinations of all types are becoming more prevalent.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ml?ref=us&_r=0

FURTHER:

Among all newlyweds, 9.4% of whites, 17.1% of blacks, 25.7% of Hispanics and 27.7% of Asians married someone whose race or ethnicity was different from their own.

Gender patterns in intermarriage vary widely. Some 24% of all black male newlyweds in 2010 married outside their race, compared with just 9% of black female newlyweds. Among Asians, the gender pattern runs the other way. Some 36% of Asian female newlyweds married outside their race in 2010, compared with just 17% of Asian male newlyweds. Among whites and Hispanics, by contrast, there are no gender differences in intermarriage rates.

2010 Pew Community Research Survey: 2010 Pew Research Center Report (U.S. Census Bureau’s 2010 American Community Survey)

http://pewsocialtrends.org/files/201...rrying-out.pdf

Next:


Of the 275,500 new intermarried pairings in 2010, 43.3% were White-Hispanic (compared to White-Asian at 14.4%, White-Black at 11.9%, and Other Combinations at 30.4%; other combinations consists of pairings between different minority groups, multi-racial people, and American Indians).[137] Unlike blacks and Asians, intermarriage rates between White and Hispanic newlyweds do not vary by gender. The combined median earnings of White/Hispanic couples are lower than those of White/White couples but higher than those of Hispanic/Hispanic couples. 23% of Hispanic men who married White women have a college degree compared to only 10% of Hispanic men who married a Hispanic woman. 33% of Hispanic women who married a White husband are college-educated compared to 13% of Hispanic women who married a Hispanic man.

The Rise of Intermarriage - Page 2 | Pew Research Center

You want to take a gander at whether the fresh off the boat mestizos from Chiapas are college educated?


And FINALLY, Hispanic is NOT a race. And the more "Mestizos" marry WHITES, the less and less phenotypically "Indian" their offspring will become. The average Mexican is already hovering 50%+ European mixture.

At some point, cut off from fresh immigration the population of the American SW US would look very similar to TRUE Latin countries.
Agreed tho the dude you replied to will never face facts especially as you said; he did NOT post up any links to back his side.
 
Old 08-19-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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Depends on how you define "assimilated" or what you consider to be assimilated? Also the Cuban experience is diverse & varies by time, era, place, arrival, location, race, region, religion, reasons, means, morals, socioeconomic backgrounds etc!
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