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Old 07-17-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I never said business can thrive w/o governmenet...though than can often do better with far less government than what we currently have. I did say that government can not survive nor accomplish anything without the funds provided by private business.
Modern governments can't survive without business and business can't survive without customers. Ah the circle of life.

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Please provide a list of the things the government provided that were not paid for by money taken from private businesses or the individuals they employ.
I'll tackle that question once you tackle mine that I asked. Here it is again, I'll condense it for you.

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What governments have done better or accomplished more.

 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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Only people trying to claim you don't get any credit are you and your liked minded breathern.



I just don't see how can you possibly know or even claim that if his dad wasn't wealthy and wasn't the governor of Michigan he would may or may not have a few less million. I got the point, but I think it's incorrect. Mitt Romney is very fortunate to have had the family he had, which isn't to say he isn't hard working or doesn't deserve credit, but obviously his family played a role.
Not sure what your snarky first sentence means.

I don't know or claim. No one ever will. I think he sould be rich because he has the ambition to be. Do you for sure know that he wouldn't be?

Ask me the same question about Obama and I don't think there's a chance in h3ll he would be rich. He clearly doesn't understand money, business or the economy.

I think if the two started at zero and I had to pick one Romney would be the best bet for who could get rich.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Well said!! Just EXACTLY what Obama meant in my honest opinion,...and that's his goal,...to make as many dependent upon the government as is possible. Socialist are just that way.
As opposed to be dependent on the private sector? Do you want to give the power you gave to government to the private sector who may or may not even be based in your country?
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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Yes Obama, there are a lot of people out there working hard and while some do succeed and others fail, there are also those who actually do work harder than others to get to where they are. But what would you know about that? You want everything to be "equal". And we all know while yes you are POTUS, just what the hell did you do that was so great in your life? What the hell were your accomplishments besides community organizing (aka telling others how they should run things, etc)? Youve done jack squat.

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Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.


He's right. If you've got a business, you didn't build the American system that allowed you to thrive. You didn't invest in roads and bridges; the government did.

Of course if you read "The Washington Times" , chance are you're incapable of understanding what's being said in the first place.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Obama takes shot at business owners: "If you’ve got a business - you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen"

I think he was taking a swipe at Romney, and it's true, Romeny definitely owes his success to his moneybag father
Just as Obama owes his hatred of a capitalist society on his father. Whats good for the goose...etc. Unfortunately he worded it in such a way that it was a swipe at all business owners, small and large alike. They say words can be ones worst enemy. Right now Obama's words are revealing his intent. Four more years is all he needs to finish his chaos.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.


He's right. If you've got a business, you didn't build the American system that allowed you to thrive. You didn't invest in roads and bridges; the government did.

Of course if you read "The Washington Times" , chance are you're incapable of understanding what's being said in the first place.
Yes we did invest in those things. It was OUR money, business people's included!
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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Yes we did invest in those things. It was OUR money, business people's included!
Funny, y'all typically refer to government as "confiscating your money," not investing it.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Not sure what your snarky first sentence means.
Keep thinking about it, maybe it will come to you. Otherwise you can ask me and I'll explain it to you.

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I don't know or claim. No one ever will. I think he sould be rich because he has the ambition to be. Do you for sure know that he wouldn't be?
Well you offered much more specifics than me, gave timetables and estimated he'd only have a few millions left.

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Ask me the same question about Obama and I don't think there's a chance in h3ll he would be rich. He clearly doesn't understand money, business or the economy.

I think if the two started at zero and I had to pick one Romney would be the best bet for who could get rich.
Clearly. He didn't come from Romney's wealthy background or had a state governor yet he managed to become a senator and a president. But hey if your measure of man's success and intelligence is the amount he has then have at it.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.


He's right. If you've got a business, you didn't build the American system that allowed you to thrive. You didn't invest in roads and bridges; the government did.

Of course if you read "The Washington Times" , chance are you're incapable of understanding what's being said in the first place.
The government doesn't build anything. They take money from the pool of taxes that WE PAY, my father paid, my grandfather paid.

He should have said "the citizens of this country invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- the government didn’t build that, YOU DID"

What don't you liberals understand about "of the people, by the people, for the people"?
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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Funny, y'all typically refer to government as "confiscating your money," not investing it.
Well when they need to defend the government it's investment.
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