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Originally Posted by Savoir Faire
Harbor, there is a different between supporting and embracing.
Really, the Democratic party in Chicago, which is the 3rd most populous city in the USA embraces the 2nd amendment?? Until recently you couldn't legally have a handgun in your own home.
I know there are plenty of Democrats that support gun rights, but I'm talking about the party as a whole, especially the leadership
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First off, I've got to say I don't care about what's best for dems, repubs, or any other ideology. I care what's best for the constitution, individual citizens, and the nation.
I'm against prohibiting registered handguns in private residences for private individuals. I strongly
disagree that the 2nd amendment only applies to a regulated militia (at the exclusion of ordinary citizens). I'm also against prohibition of concealed carry for those capable of being responsible. Particularly among store owners or other regular targets of crime. Insurance companies pointing red flags ought to be enough reason.
I see your meaning about support and embrace, but having tighter restrictions in densely populated urban areas does wind up being needful. The kill ratio weapon capacity and the available targets within the span of 3 minutes is a bloodbath waiting to happen. WTC was a very enticing target for malevolence. Now do you believe us? A no fly zone does make sense as a result, even if it makes less sense to all others. A gang banger can be solved with 30 neighborhood tek9's firing in all directions, no one certain who the original shooter was, to hell with collateral damage? Now do you see why the rural cowboy advice is useless and unwelcome by urban LE? American cities have no business being managed like Mogadishu.
I'm not a city planner. I'm not a lot of things. I can't say I have the perfect answer. Cities like Chicago and DC are trying to solve their own problems and the NRA is standing in the way every time they try. They need to be helping, not hindering, but hindering is the only tool in their drawer. That needs to change because the #1 enemy of the 2nd amendment is the NRA as they currently are. Homogenized absolutist universally applied policies are not pragmatic. Disneyland doesn't want fire arms on their property, and should be respected. Fire arms don't belong in a kindergarten, or a surgical suite. People getting obnoxious about their 'rights' should be enough grounds to evict them without lawsuits involved.
I'd like to see more training in full spectrum self defense starting in high schools and extending out into communities. At adult stages it should include small fire arms instruction to better empower the right people (sane law abiding citizens) to exercise their 2nd amendment right responsibly. That's not happening with a thousand illegal Saturday night specials in the hands of juveniles/ druggies on the street and all others prohibited from ownership. Additionally my acumen on the range won't be worth a hill of beans when my service revolver is up against a tec9. My wits are going to save me before my gun does and most people aren't trained to know that. There's a lot of cheesy romantic notions about fire arms that need to be debunked. If I have to pull a weapon, it's already late in the game. I've already missed too many opportunities to get myself out of harms way and/or de-escalate the situation.
Assault weapons need to be banned for sales among general populations. I'd rather see them
special permitted to
well trained militias under protection of LE, but if it gets away from you, no mercy from the cops or in the courtroom. Militias are best preserved by members policing one another, as Hutaree nutters were thwarted in large measure by a militia member who saw disturbing behavior in individuals and reported it. Military vets seasoned/trained in judgmentals who've already been psych vetted are ideal volunteers. Wannabe Rambos, not so much. My (blue) city encourages the 2nd amendment, the state (blue-red) is a "shall issue", but it also imposes steep sentencing for crimes commissioned with a fire arm. I think that's more than fair. You can be tough on crime but not be an ass about it for all the rest.
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I don't recall Obama or the Democratic Congress pushing for any kind of gun control or even getting anything to a vote. Republican politicians know they've conclusively won the war against gun control and just continue to beat the issue to death because it gets ignorant people who actually think Democrats differ from Republicans in any way on the issue. Same as how they were telling people John Kerry would ban the Bible, just another red herring for the lowest common denominator 
