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Old 08-05-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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As I stated in my topic here

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-board-18.html

the GOP has been moving further and further toward the right thanks to the "grassroots" tea party fueled by funding from Koch Industries. Now moderate conservatives are seen as being ultra left wing socialist commies because they correctly believe the president isn't a socialist that single sex marriage is destroying America.



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Moderate Republicans have come under attack in primaries across the country this year, but the split in the GOP is perhaps older and sharper in Kansas — and it comes to a head Tuesday.

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When it comes to the political map, Kansas isn't just red, it's a stoplight. It's molten lava. Republicans hold every congressional seat, all the big statewide offices and both chambers of the legislature. But despite their lock on power, Kansas Republicans don't generally get along.
Kansas GOP Campaigns To Exile Moderates : NPR

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Old 08-05-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, compromising the US Constitution is a big problem, concerning our individual freedoms.

We don't need moderates compromising anymore of the US Constitution! We have enough full blown Progressives doing that.

Time to rid one party of the Progressive cancer killing the freest nation ever known to mankind.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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People voting for Obama care and wanting a vast growing government are not moderates, they are progressives.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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As I stated in my topic here

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-board-18.html

the GOP has been moving further and further toward the right thanks to the "grassroots" tea party fueled by funding from Koch Industries. Now moderate conservatives are seen as being ultra left wing socialist commies because they correctly believe the president isn't a socialist that single sex marriage is destroying America.





Kansas GOP Campaigns To Exile Moderates : NPR
The party has moved very far to the right over the last 30-40 years. If you look at their platform from 1956, it actually has good things to say about collective bargaining, along with the usual right-wing language. I've had discussions with various people from the extreme right (Ron Paul supporters) to slightly less right-wing (Romney) but haven't talked to a GOP moderate in about 30 years. Rare birds.

The Republicans I've spoken with have been racist; hate the poor and disadvantaged; are selfish and only concerned with feathering their own nests. They favour the continuation of class warfare/tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, and Democratic voter suppression. The usual. The main thing I am concerned about is that President Obama doesn't go back to trying to work with them in his second term. I pray that he has learned his lesson about that.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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We have a common enemy, a ruthless power destroying the fabric of our American Community thread by thread. America has been kidnapped by a small group of neo-conservative radical Republicans with a bold plan to take whatever resources they want, anywhere they want. It's about liquidating our public wealth for a quick buck, the lust for absolute power and the pursuit of self-interest over the best interests of Americans.
Threats to Democracy

The only ones that do not see how radical and detrimental this new extreme party is are the ones that support it. They should change the name of The Republican Party because they are not really Republicans. Out of respect for the historically true Republicans, they should forfeit the hijacking of the party name.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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the freest nation ever known to mankind.
Hardly. This coming from a proud, patriotic American, but not one with delusions like that.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Anyways the Republicans nominated Romney, and he's pretty moderate (for a modern Republican). So I'd say it isn't time to panic quite yet.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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The party has moved very far to the right over the last 30-40 years. If you look at their platform from 1956, it actually has good things to say about collective bargaining, along with the usual right-wing language. I've had discussions with various people from the extreme right (Ron Paul supporters) to slightly less right-wing (Romney) but haven't talked to a GOP moderate in about 30 years. Rare birds.

(This next paragraph is a total pant load IMO: Rcccb)The Republicans I've spoken with have been racist; hate the poor and disadvantaged; are selfish and only concerned with feathering their own nests. They favour the continuation of class warfare/tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, and Democratic voter suppression. The usual. The main thing I am concerned about is that President Obama doesn't go back to trying to work with them in his second term. I pray that he has learned his lesson about that.
Are you kidding me, the Republicans went a bit left dragged by the massive left wing dive by the Democrats.
Compare the Democrats of Kennedy's time and the condition of the government without all these social programs. Also consider government has been grown mostly by the left from 1-100 to now 1-9 working for government.
Democrats have been giving away the treasury and the Republicans have been unwilling to do more because of the power giving the treasury away had on having the public vote Democrat.
NOW the Democrats gave so much away, they so grew government employees and have so many on the Dole that it is all going to really collapse. We are going to be forced to fire tons and tons of government employees and we are going to have to really shake the heck out of the entitlement tree until the only ones still hanging on are the elderly and disabled.

Republicans and especially conservatives have had hard times trying to win races because Democrats have trained voters to expect stuff. Here Democrats say vote for me and I will give you piles of other people's money, meanwhile what can Republicans/conservatives say? Hi, vote for us and we will be responsible and you have to learn to be more self sufficient.

Democrats = Giving piles of money from the treasury away.
How far to the right does anyone have to go from current Democrats to be against all they believe in? Not far when they are acting like Greek Socialist politicians.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Moderate conservative for Obama.
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I'm no tea party or right wing sympathizer and i dont think their cause would be born out of random bordom.

There has to be a reason, cause and effect if you will. I dont believe they mean to act like evil villains, i dont believe they are less accepting of change as anyone else, i think the boat got rocked all too fast too soon. It has made the already paranoid and suspicious all more paranoid and suspicions, a black president sealed the deal. And no im not anti obama niether.

As much as i disagree with their extreme views, i am still a moderate conservative (a minority one). Our views stem from the same base though theirs is more polarized given our climate. The failures of our society gave a resurgence to their rise. Everyone shares the blame, both liberals and conservative, not more than the other.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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The party has moved very far to the right over the last 30-40 years. If you look at their platform from 1956, it actually has good things to say about collective bargaining, along with the usual right-wing language. I've had discussions with various people from the extreme right (Ron Paul supporters) to slightly less right-wing (Romney) but haven't talked to a GOP moderate in about 30 years. Rare birds.

The Republicans I've spoken with have been racist; hate the poor and disadvantaged; are selfish and only concerned with feathering their own nests. They favour the continuation of class warfare/tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, and Democratic voter suppression. The usual. The main thing I am concerned about is that President Obama doesn't go back to trying to work with them in his second term. I pray that he has learned his lesson about that.
Yeah I know what you mean. It's amazing how the election in 1980 drastically changed the direction of the Republican party and even more so with the tea party today.

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Anyways the Republicans nominated Romney, and he's pretty moderate (for a modern Republican). So I'd say it isn't time to panic quite yet.
Yes I'm quite surprised Romney was nominated but was still revolted that candidates such as Santorum and Gingrich were still winning primaries. I think Romney's okay overall, but I'm probably going to vote for Obama since I'm afraid of the possibility of Romney capitulating to the far right wing of his party in congress should the tea party gain control of the senate.
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