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Old 09-08-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No

Some people don't have them. In some cases, they are hard to obtain and even expensive.


Some people don't have them???? Did their house burn down?
Tell me the case, where they are hard to obtain?
It cost a $1 copy fee here, when I got an original copy for my daughter, to play High School sports.
By mail it was an additional $2
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:37 PM
 
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Some people don't have them???? Did their house burn down?
Tell me the case, where they are hard to obtain?
It cost a $1 copy fee here, when I got an original copy for my daughter, to play High School sports.
By mail it was an additional $2
Some people don't have the luxury to go through such process. Voting is a right that should not be deprived of citizens.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:40 PM
 
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Some people don't have the luxury to go through such process. Voting is a right that should not be deprived of citizens.
........and their vote should not be diluted by illegal votes either. If your vote is canceled out by an illegal one you essentially have been deprived of voting.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:42 PM
 
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........and their vote should not be diluted by illegal votes either. If your vote is canceled out by an illegal one you essentially have been deprived of voting.
Illegals can't vote.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:46 PM
 
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Illegals can't vote.
Firstly I said "illegal votes" which would include any fraudulent vote. Secondly everyone follows the law right, especially illegals?
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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No, it's a little more than that simple explanation.
How can a libertarian be a social conservative?
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:47 PM
 
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Firstly I said "illegal votes". Secondly everyone follows the law right?
What "illegal votes"?
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I think the coalman pretty much lays the issue to rest, but there is really a better question than the OP asks.

Why is it that Democrats are anti-command/control/enforcement on this one issue and this one issue only. I got a PMB (private mail box) in the 1990's when shopping on line was starting. During the Clinton admin there was a big push to crack down on the PMBs. In particular, pretty stringent ID requirements to open a PMB were started. Around 1987 I opened a PMB under a phony name, no problem. Back then I was a bit of a conspiracy theorist and was ordering some controversial reading material that I didn't want traceable to me.
Private Mail Boxes and the Right to Privacy | Edward L. Hudgins | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary


When the PMB ID requirements were imposed, there were no complaints from the left. Same with "know your customer" another 1990's privacy invasion--no complaints from the left. As I recall my first passbook savings account was opened w/o ID. I opened it before I was 16, so I'm sure I would not have had ID. ID requirements were imposed somewhere along the line--no yowls from the left. The Gun Control Act of 68 required ID to buy a gun--no yowls. The Brady Act added an FBI background check--no yowls.

Why is it that on just this one single issue, the left decides to be anti command-and-control?
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:53 PM
 
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You often hear this argument "prove it", how about you prove there isn't? You can't because it's just as hard for me to prove there is illegal voting as it would be for you to prove there isn't. Having said that the existence of voter fraud is undeniable due to the numerous convictions and other indicators like the Pew study that estimates 24 million voter registrations are either invalid or significantly inaccurate. The questions is not whether it exists but the extent of it.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Some people don't have the luxury to go through such process. Voting is a right that should not be deprived of citizens.


Say what?

Only someone not born in these United States of America, or is already deceased, don't have that luxury.
I was born on a Friday, but it was not last Friday.


I see you totally side stepped my questions.

I'll ask this one again...
Who doesn't have one?
Tell me the case, where they are hard to obtain, since you made the statement.
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