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Old 09-13-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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you are right, we can't legislate your thoughts or beliefs, but we sure can legislate your actions. You can be the most racist, homophobic person in this country, but the government can tell you not to deny me services, or you have to have quotas. I don't care about your belief, I just care how you treat me.

And 9 times out of 10, you will be treated well. As for quotas. Again that is force! I want to hire the ABSOLUTE best person for the job!
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Libertarians want to abolish all government agencies even if these agencies play a good role in protecting the goodwill of citizens. .
Even repeating that lie frequently doesn't make it true.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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And 9 times out of 10, you will be treated well. As for quotas. Again that is force! I want to hire the ABSOLUTE best person for the job!
that maybe true, but the problem comes when you assume that because a person is white, that makes them the absolute best person for the job. i'm not saying you would do that, but we've seen it in the past.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Few want to understand libertarians. It is easier to give up your life to the government than do your own thinking...all libertarianism represents is.....a persons need and want...and right to run their own life without needless interference or governmental harassment. Harassment that has but one purpose- to employ bureaucrats who create no real wealth...who live like parasites off a needlessly complex system. In other words a libertarian is a person who demand the rights of an individual over the removal of personal responsibility - and the forfeit of rights to the collective...Libertarians do not want to be ants in an ant hill- they do not want to live like insects....a good example to the opposite of libertarianism is corporate capitalism...Islam....communism and nanny state socialism. It is about real liberty...most are afraid to be free.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So what do libertarians want, if they're okay with regulating commercial activity and private conduct, if they're okay with public schools, if they're okay with a huge military going to war...

...They sound like Republocrats.

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They are not. Where did you get those ideas?
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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Even repeating that lie frequently doesn't make it true.
are you kidding me, you guys make tea part nut jobs look sane when it comes to reducing government.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Maybe libertarianism is so misunderstood because people who consider themselves libertarians can't agree on what it is!
No party has total agreement among it's members. That's normal.

John Kennedy and Lester Maddux were both Democrats.... and couldn't agree on what the Democratic party should be supporting.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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Few want to understand libertarians. It is easier to give up your life to the government than do your own thinking...all libertarianism represents is.....a persons need and want...and right to run their own life without needless interference or governmental harassment. Harassment that has but one purpose- to employ bureaucrats who create no real wealth...who live like parasites off a needlessly complex system. In other words a libertarian is a person who demand the rights of an individual over the removal of personal responsibility - and the forfeit of rights to the collective...Libertarians do not want to be ants in an ant hill- they do not want to live like insects....a good example to the opposite of libertarianism is corporate capitalism...Islam....communism and nanny state socialism. It is about real liberty...most are afraid to be free.
I'm starting to realize that libertarians just want to live in world without rules. They keep making it seem like the government is preventing them from starting businesses or going to school, or buying a house etc. Please tell me what the government prevents you from doing?
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Perhaps because it is incomprehensible and inconsistant?

So are you a "John Kennedy Democrat" or a "Lester Maddox Democrat"?

Talk about incomprehensible and inconsistent.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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that maybe true, but the problem comes when you assume that because a person is white, that makes them the absolute best person for the job. i'm not saying you would do that, but we've seen it in the past.

Of course I wouldn't do that! When I say best person, I mean best person! They could be purple for all I care!
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