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Old 09-13-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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No party has total agreement among it's members. That's normal.

John Kennedy and Lester Maddux were both Democrats.... and couldn't agree on what the Democratic party should be supporting.
that maybe true, but because you guys aren't mainstream, it doesn't do ya'll any favors when the message isn't consistent.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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Of course I wouldn't do that! When I say best person, I mean best person! They could be purple for all I care!
you keep talking about yourself, i'm talking about most of society.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The American two party political system serves the upper class period........This is so difficult for most American's to grasp, but, it's the truth. Any talk of third party politics at this late date in our country is certainly the stuff of daydreams. The political circus that passes for our "democratic elections" is constructed in such a way to make it appear that the two parties are really in a battle of wills to bring "good" to the American people. Welfare, corporate and individual, military spending, banking laws, securities trade rules, global trade, monopoly capitalism, all these are the real agenda of our two parties, and every one of these aspects of politics serve the upper class. Welfare, whether it be corporate or individual is just a way to re-distribute wealth. Same with the military, it's needs have been the foundation for many mega business success stories. .
Very good points.

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Old 09-13-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Item number 2 in your list is certainly no myth. The official Libertarian Platform, as adopted in May 2012, even states that Libertarians are anarchists.



Source: Platform | Libertarian Party

It can hardly be construed as a "bizarre misconception" when the official Libertarian Party Platform flat-out admits that it desires to uphold the ideal of total anarchy.
I guess you don't know how to spell "anarchists". I searched your link and cannot find anything that says Libertarians are anarchists. So your post is either dumb or a lie.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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you guys don't do yourself any favors by stating that both parties are destroying america, and that you are the smart ones and insult most people by saying they are brainwashed, and mindless sheep to a two-party system.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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you keep talking about yourself, i'm talking about most of society.

Because you keep painting libertarians with a broad brush! I can't speak for all, just like you can't speak for all dems!
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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Because you keep painting libertarians with a broad brush! I can't speak for all, just like you can't speak for all dems!
i'm not speaking for all dems, I'm just stating my opinion about libertarianism.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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I think one other thing you tin foil on my head libertarians may not realize is that you simply aren't misunderstood and that most people don't like your brand of politics. There are people who actually care about the poor and the sick and don't want to see them die off. There is no way you can explain your ideology that is not some form of survival of the fittest.
"There are people who actually care about the poor and the sick and don't want to see them die off." Yes, I totally agree and those people would fit nicely in the Libertarian party.

Libertarians fully support charity and if they were in control, would increase incentives for charitable giving.

Libertarians believe in voluntarily supporting society rather than stealing from one hard working person to give to another person. That's not charity.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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"There are people who actually care about the poor and the sick and don't want to see them die off." Yes, I totally agree and those people would fit nicely in the Libertarian party.

Libertarians fully support charity and if they were in control, would increase incentives for charitable giving.

Libertarians believe in voluntarily supporting society rather than stealing from one hard working person to give to another person. That's not charity.
and this is something I continue to tell you guys, you people overestimate the goodwill of this country. There are not enough people in this country, charities, churches and private organizations that can support all the people who are in need. You guys seem to be under this impression that we as a country are going to magically come together in a free market society and take care of all the poor and sick.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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There are simply not enough organizations and churches that can help/support people without the government helping. That is just lame excuse that you libertarians use to justify ending entitlement spending. I think you people over estimate the goodwill that people will show when its everybody for themselves.

And I think you people underestimate the goodwill of the people and underestimate the waste and fraud of government sponsored welfare.

Americans give over $300 billion every year which is more than the government spends on welfare for the poor.
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