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Obviously you were not clear enough what you meant to say, maybe you should give it another try.
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Oh, and by the way, it's not just my opinion. It has been discussed by many people over the years. This has been pretty well documented. See ""Ancient History": U.S. Conduct in the Middle East Since World War II and the Folly of Intervention". So, as Ron Paul has asserted, we've had our nose in others businesses for a long time, and Obama thought his way of intervening was more enlightened. As current events have shown, his policies of appeasement and helping people who we apparently know nothing about have made things worse.
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...To Obama's credit, he inherited a LOT of failed policies over the years, but Obama has made things worse, and what we see today is a result of what he did. As I've just typed, you would not have to sit there and deliberate on how to fix a problem if you didn't inflame the problem in the first place.
We shouldn't be trying to fix a problem we don't understand, and may actually not be able to be fixed.
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Some say this is a return to 1979. I'm not a fan of Jimmy Carter. Carter had his problems with Iran, but he inherited policies that were brewing over decades before him. At least Jimmy Carter brought Israel and Egypt together. Obama's foreign policies in of itself led to chaos.
To summarize, intervention, even if the person thinks they may know the area, may have unintended consequences. Sorry your reading comprehension isn't up to speed.
Why is everyone acting like this is the first time there have been widespread riots in the Middle East? My God, these images look like reruns of videos I have seen throughout my entire life. Has Obama been influencing our politics for that long? No.
Every POTUS has dealt with unrest and riots over there, and this will continue until we get the h*ll out of there. The anti-American sentiment over there was not caused by Obama. It has been generations in the making and will continue for generations to come.
I personally never suggested (and in fact pointed this out in many of my posts) that Obama didn't start the whole Middle East thing, but his Libyan and Syrian intervention + drone attacks have inflamed the situation much. And Obama's Middle East policy is what we are currently talking about.
The only way to win the Arab world over is through manly respect and tough honest dialogue. A while back and I don't recall the name..but America sent an openly gay man to Iraq to help negotiate...That would be considered an insult to these guys...or sending a woman...such a Hilary....not being sexist personally- but that was not wise- Hilary should have been told to stand down 99% of the time when it comes to dealing with the middle east..Unless you are a Golda Myer..which she is not.
The only way to win the Arab world over is through manly respect and tough honest dialogue. A while back and I don't recall the name..but America sent an openly gay man to Iraq to help negotiate...That would be considered an insult to these guys...or sending a woman...such a Hilary....not being sexist personally- but that was not wise- Hilary should have been told to stand down 99% of the time when it comes to dealing with the middle east..Unless you are a Golda Myer..which she is not.
I think you've hit the nail on the head. I've thought the same thing many times before.
I personally never suggested (and in fact pointed this out in many of my posts) that Obama didn't start the whole Middle East thing, but his Libyan and Syrian intervention + drone attacks have inflamed the situation much. And Obama's Middle East policy is what we are currently talking about.
So let me get this straight. Helping Middle Eastern nations move out from under tyranny and cruel dictators and move towards democracy is a bad thing for America to stand for?
Using drones to hunt down and specifically target terrorists is not a better way of doing that than sending troops in and causing massive damage to infrastructure and the lives of many innocent civilians?
Three years after Obama's speech in Cairo, which was supposed to initiate a new beginning in the Middle East, the United States now has even less support in the region than before.
That's not a failure of this president. Instead, it is the consequences of an American foreign policy that for decades favored power over democracy, and a hard line over human rights -- and which will suffer from a credibility problem for a long time for precisely those reasons."
"Mitt Romney has, however, failed to recognize the very core of the American dilemma. He attacked Obama with twisted facts shortly after the announcement of the death of the US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens. He claimed that the US government had sympathized with the attackers in Benghazi. But not only was that factually wrong, it also demonstrated an alarmingly high level of foreign policy incompetence to his own party. None of this would matter, except that Romney wants Obama's job -- and might even get it on Nov. 6."
"The West must be tough on terrorism. And it must show that it can differentiate between rabble-rousers and peaceful Muslims."
To the neocons, rabble-rousers and peaceful Muslims are one and the same.
Had I my druthers, better Saddam, Ghaddafi, Arafat were still in power. We should have stayed the h*ll out of the Middle East. Got a crippled Afghan war vet in my family. War is not an insignificant thing. Romney has five sons - why weren't they in Bush's Iraq war?
Criminal to have stirred the pot in that insane region. No surprise a volcano has been awakened which will continue to erupt for the next 20 years.
To the neocons, rabble-rousers and peaceful Muslims are one and the same.
Had I my druthers, better Saddam, Ghaddafi, Arafat were still in power. We should have stayed the hell out of the Middle East. Got a crippled Afghan war vet in my family. War is not an insignificant thing. Romney has five sons - why weren't they in Bush's Iraq war?
Criminal to have stirred the pot in that insane region. But, considering the brains behind it, no surprise a volcano has been awakened which will continue for the 20 years.
Yes, when the World Trade Towers came down, it awakened a giant volcano.
Yes, when the World Trade Towers came down, it awakened a giant volcano.
That had nothing to do with Iraq. Saudi's attacked the Towers. Using your logic, we should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Iraq.
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