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Believe what you want. But the news coverage on Al Jazeera also says the film incited the problems. I dont think they are "main stream media".
We have to look at things beyond our own borders and the talk shows here to find out what the truth is.
Ok, I get it. When Hillary or Obama say the same thing Romney said, it's an apology. But, when Romney says it, it's NOT an apology because he said something else first.
Geez. Following your logic and shifting posts is like tracking a single piece of pasta through 500 lbs of spaghetti.
You are just not getting it. According to the right, the entire Arab Spring was Obama's fault and "allowing" the overthrow of Mubarak was his fault too. I am sure that today's attack on the German embassy and the British embassy was Obama's fault too.
The question really to ask is, "what policy would the right-wing have proposed instead? Should Pres. Obama have committed to keeping Mubarak in power at all costs against the will of Egyptians? Should the U.S. have invaded Egypt and suppressed the population?"
What Obama did do, which the OP hasn't mentioned, was lay down the law to the Egyptians, who are desperate to our aid.
Believe what you want. But the news coverage on Al Jazeera also says the film incited the problems. I dont think they are "main stream media".
We have to look at things beyond our own borders and the talk shows here to find out what the truth is.
Al Jazeera is wrong and furthering American/Muslim dissension. The planners of the embassy attack had the attack scheduled for 9/11 long before the film. The film is a convenient red herring. Al Qaida is saying the attack in Libya was done to avenge the killing of one of its leaders whose name I'm not gonna bother to look up (Al Quarish?).
Believe what you want. But the news coverage on Al Jazeera also says the film incited the problems. I dont think they are "main stream media".
We have to look at things beyond our own borders and the talk shows here to find out what the truth is.
If the attacks were premised on an American-made film, why was the German embassy sacked?
Not if the group you're helping is as bad or worse than who you are overthrowing. In that case, it's better just to mind our own business.
Take a look back through history starting with the shah of Iran. What is good for US is not always what is good for those people, and that is a determination that only democracy can bring about.
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Nice attempt to lead the witness. I don't have a problem with getting the bad guys with drones in general. The problem with Obama's (and Bush's to be fair) drone strikes is in the way in which he's doing it. He's not working with the country the drones are in nor are the people in the that country behind it, thus the country feels their sovereignty is violated. Now we can argue if that should be done or not (tip off the bad guy), but it sure is building up a lot of resentment among ALL the Middle East population, and leads to what we see today. And keeping it up will eventually lead to something worse where we'll eventually have to go to war (again).
If these nations were friendly to the US until the drone attacks, why are they harboring and allowing the free movement of terrorists in their countries?
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The better solution is to get our own source of energy, quit relying on the Middle East's oil, and then quit poking our noses into other country's business.
Exactly. Which would require a combination of renewable and petroleum based energy sources that have been touted for decades but never implemented to any degree rather than 'drill, baby, drill.'
It clearly states that the video 'caused' these attacks, and the right on here condoned the action. But one person on here tries to say that the film had any part in it, and the reaction is entirely different.
The video/film fuels the fire begun by militants, but it did not cause it. And, since when is a headline in a news article an irrefutable fact? Some of the people in those countries are religious fanatics, easily inflamed, apparently unemployed, with a lot of free time to cause havoc making life miserable for the majority.
The maker of that film should be stripped of his U.S. citizenship and deported to his country of origin - somewhere in Syria/Lebanan, Iran, wherever.
If the attacks were premised on an American-made film, why was the German embassy sacked?
I don't think the film in a vaccuum would have caused this much of a problem...but tensions are very high there...
The film was a symbol of the problem.
The video/film fuels the fire begun by militants, but it did not cause it. And, since when is a headline in a news article an irrefutable fact? Some of the people in those countries are religious fanatics, easily inflamed, apparently unemployed, with a lot of free time to cause havoc making life miserable for the majority.
The maker of that film should be stripped of his U.S. citizenship and deported to his country of origin - somewhere in Syria/Lebanan, Iran, wherever.
No, it did not cause it, but makes a handy excuse for renewed violence.
All these people have is their religion.
They don't have the rights and freedoms that we enjoy. A large part live in poverty and near starvation, and religion is the only thing they have to hold on to. They, through their governments, do not have the rights that you and I enjoy. If they did, maybe their primary focus wouldn't be on religion, and they could see this film as the BS we see it as. Ready made propaganda films about how the west views the Muslims is one of the rare bits of outside information allowed in many of these countries.
That film clip sat on you tube for 2 months and no one noticed.
An Egyptian TV show aired the clip last Saturday over and over and over stressing the US and Coptic connections to it.
The Movie So Offensive That Egyptians Just Stormed the U.S. Embassy Over It - Max Fisher - The Atlantic
Obviously, there's a lot to this story that's still unclear. What we do know is that some members of Egypt's sometimes-raucous, often rumor-heavy media have been playing highly offensive clips from the highly offensive film, stressing its U.S. and Coptic connections. In the clip below, controversial TV host Sheikh Khaled Abdallah (known for such statements as "Iran is more dangerous to us than the Jews" and that Tehran had engineered a deadly soccer riot in Port Said) hypes the film as an American-Coptic plot and introduces what he says is its opening scene.
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