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Let charities take over? Now, try thinking just a tad deeper. Here you have a nation that has the most sophisticated military the world has ever seen. Not a problem it seems however when many talk about the delivery of healthcare the whole nation will implode unto itself because of costs. Such BS. But for some reason charity could take care of this dire situation. You must be 20 years old.
no but i do have brain damage so let me try explaining a bit better...first i was thinking i was in the one recently about welfare...but i still think it could be done partly/fully privatized...and a voluntary system could also possibly work...i'm just putting things on the table as ideas...again sorry for getting confused
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How decidedly socialist of you. As for W's policies, those belong to the Dem controlled congress. That mess belongs to them and Obama, through and through.
Bush's policies, where in place, that caused that, before the Democrats controlled congress.
Unless someone that is 50, is on disablity, they can't have Medicare. So, the example you give does not apply to them. $6-7 thousand is chicken feed?. You can buy a Medicare Supplement for $50-165 a month from my company! Some companies are cheaper. Dr.s that carry Medicare HAVE to take our plans! They have no choice. It is the law. They have to take all supplement plans from all companies. There is no such thing as opting out. Why would they want to? They will be guaranteed to get paid! The MD's would have to completely opt out of Medicare altogether to not take a supplement. Romney/Ryans plan is an added benefit that is very similar to what they have for Congressmen. Isn't that what everyone has been fussing about? That Congress gets better healthcare? Well, now our seniors can have it. obama wants to take away from our senior's Medicare benefits by $716 billion dollars starting in Jan! This is not fair to those who are on a fixed income!
Keep in mind, you and I are at two polar ends of this issue. I'm a husband of a wife who became very ill. Not only did she end up in a battle for her life but both of us had a mess dealing with insurance companies in which it almost destroyed us to say the least. After paying premiums for decades, when the chips where down that coverage vanished quickly, as it was set up to do for those with long term chronic conditions, so did our savings +100 grand. She is now on SSDI and medicare. Sense she is not a retiree but is disabled instead she does not qualify for supplemental coverage but advantage plans only. There are only two that participate in my State and zip code leaving very few doctors for her to see for her particular condition. My point is I look at this subject with black tinted glasses. I do not trust health insurance companies by and large at any age, however I do have a small soft spot for BCBS.
Please list some companies where a person can buy a Medicare supplement for $50-$165.
For any insurance industry person, you obviously don't understand the Affordable Care Act if you the Medicare benefits are being cut. That's completely untrue.
I don't know everything about obamacare, because I only work with Seniors. Not for major medical care for younger people. But, Medicare, that I do know about. obamacare takes funds from Medicare to give to fund the rest of obamacare. The money has to come somewhere, you know. Maybe you shouldn't try to be so insulting to someone who is educated in this and trying to give out free information to people she doesn't even know. I was trying to be helpful. I thought libs were supposed to be the ones who understood the concept of "giving" better. This is the last bit of information I will your ungrateful a$$.
You can look on your states Department of Insurance website and get a list of all insurance companies that sell in your state. This is one site that verifies the Medicare cuts. You are welcome to go educate(or anything else) yourself and find other sites on your own.
They don't have to "dismantle" it. It's unsustainable anyway. Anyone under the age of 45 that thinks those programs will be around for them is an idiot.
I don't know everything about obamacare, because I only work with Seniors. Not for major medical care for younger people. But, Medicare, that I do know about. obamacare takes funds from Medicare to give to fund the rest of obamacare. The money has to come somewhere, you know. Maybe you shouldn't try to be so insulting to someone who is educated in this and trying to give out free information to people she doesn't even know. I was trying to be helpful. I thought libs were supposed to be the ones who understood the concept of "giving" better. This is the last bit of information I will your ungrateful a$$.
You can look on your states Department of Insurance website and get a list of all insurance companies that sell in your state. This is one site that verifies the Medicare cuts. You are welcome to go educate(or anything else) yourself and find other sites on your own.
I believe most of that money is coming from insurance companies and hospitals, perks you can say that benefited them that will now help fill the donut hole in medicare part-D which my wife has benefited from. In her first year on medicare she was in the donut hole with-in two months. Luckily because of Obama care she only had to pay 50% of her medicines out of pocket instead of 100% for those who had to pay just a year before. This hole (bless GWB for) will be closed in 2020--not soon enough.
I believe most of that money is coming from insurance companies and hospitals, perks you can say that benefited them that will now help fill the donut hole in medicare part-D which my wife has benefited from. In her first year on medicare she was in the donut hole with-in two months. Luckily because of Obama care she only had to pay 50% of her medicines out of pocket instead of 100% for those who had to pay just a year before. This hole (bless GWB for) will be closed in 2020--not soon enough.
You believe most of what money? To pay for obamacare? Maybe some of it does, but it does not excuse the $716 billion that is cut from BENEFITS. Meaning Medicare will pay for less when a senior needs a procedure. Then, the senior has to pay out of pocket. So, you can believe what you want, but the cuts are the truth.
I already proposed a solution to the Social Security Insurance system. Medicare and Medicaid would be replaced by a universal health care system funded with an all sources all income tax with a deductable equal to the 85th percentile. This system would not involve the private sector insurance business at all. Both private and government owned hospitals would be audited for waste, fraud and abuse. Medical personnel would be very well paid but administrators much less so. This would provide a long term solution to paying for health care in this country.
It, too, would create great consternation amongst the top 10% but as is obvious we outnumber them 9:1.
The government did so well with mismanaging Medicare, that you think they are now qualified to mismanage UHC for the entire country. Once UHC is the only game in town, will will have no choice but to accept it, and plod along like sheep to the slaughter, albeit taxpaying sheep.
They don't have to "dismantle" it. It's unsustainable anyway. Anyone under the age of 45 that thinks those programs will be around for them is an idiot.
Yep, Medicare and Medicaid unfunded liabilities make the national debt look like a drop in the bucket.
You believe most of what money? To pay for obamacare? Maybe some of it does, but it does not excuse the $716 billion that is cut from BENEFITS. Meaning Medicare will pay for less when a senior needs a procedure. Then, the senior has to pay out of pocket. So, you can believe what you want, but the cuts are the truth.
You are not off the hook on this one. Spell out exactly what benefit or procedure that obamacare cuts from medicare patients? I just told you a fact in exactly what Obamacare and that 700 billion will pay for, and that is Medicare-Part D the donut hole, and that is a fact. If you don't think that is important then that tells me you have absolutely no idea how damn expensive full retail priced drugs are or what the donut hole is.
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. You can buy a Medicare Supplement for $50-165 a month from my company! Some companies are cheaper. Dr.s that carry Medicare HAVE to take our plans! They have no choice. It is the law. They have to take all supplement plans from all companies. There is no such thing as opting out. Why would they want to? They will be guaranteed to get paid! The MD's would have to completely opt out of Medicare altogether to not take a supplement. Romney/Ryans plan is an added benefit that is very similar to what they have for Congressmen. Isn't that what everyone has been fussing about? That Congress gets better healthcare? Well, now our seniors can have it. obama wants to take away from our senior's Medicare benefits by $716 billion dollars starting in Jan! This is not fair to those who are on a fixed income!
