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You are aware that there are those of us with toxic families who would no doubt be worse for a person to be around, right?
So basically you are saying that my contributions as a single person do not mean ?
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So because you had a crappy family life, the whole institutions stinks and is a farce.
Conservatives often say liberals are "anti-family". Well, I'm mostly to the left of most liberals, but I do admit, I am anti-family. Once upon a time, the family unit may have served a purpose (as did picking live out of one another's hair and burning dried dung for fuel) but now, it is simply an outdated institution.
Which brings me to the thesis statement: family, in modern times, is a crutch for the weak. Honestly, what is more pathetic than a grown man who still needs his mommy? Granted, family may be necessary for financial obligations, but one could just as easily enter some other agreement devoid of the emotion baggage that comes with family. People may say "I need the love of my family" Well, that right there is the weakness: only the weak need love outside of self love. The true ubermensch is confident within himself/herself and requires no such support. Sorry, but when I hear people crying about their family I can't help but wonder if they'll start crying about their stuffed animal next.
Children need an adult figure in their lives, but why do adults need people whom they share .001% more DNA in common with than someone in another continent? Why not go forward, headstrong, not weighed down by the parasites who brought you into this world?
And also, family is unnatural. Do birds return to the nest after they leave? Do wolves return to their mothers after they learn to hunt and find their own mates? Predators, the higher animals, all abandon their families after they are no longer useful. It is only the herd animals that stay with them. Who wants to be a grazing sheep, requiring the safety of the herd when one could be a snow leopard, alone on the prowl?
And the financial obligations! Why should I support my aging father? Yes, he supported me, but that was him being a sucker. Children never ask to be born. It is all vanity on the part of the parents. It is an investment that will never see a return. Why should anyone feel anything for the people whom went ahead and created them without asking for life?
I intent to work and retire (maybe) at a very old age. With the money I safe having never had children and never given a dime to the parasites who brought me into this world I will have a more than comfortable existence. That is the path of strength: ignoring all ties of family. No need for mommy's shoulder to cry on at age thirty, no need for daddy to pat you on the head for doing a good job at forty. Only one's self to impress and perhaps those whose accomplishments have made them worthy of esteem.
Please note: I am referring to "traditional" family here, not circles of friends or military bands etc whom are often compared to family. Those are adults lending their strengths to a greater cause by free association, not obligations we are allegedly born into. A circle of strong people growing stronger from alliance with one another is one thing...a grown man crying to his mommy because his girlfriend left him is another.
What you're basically saying is that a world with love, and the relationships and responsibilities that go with it, makes you weak. I think it makes you stronger. I pity you, and I hope you're young enough that you grow out of being so bitter--it sounds like you must have had an awful, loveless childhood. If you keep on this path, you're going to die a very lonely person.
You don't get to construct society to meet your wants because you didn't get what you want.
How's that not being loved working for other societies that have tried it?
You apparently want everyone to be as miserable as you seem to be.
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OP - I suggest getting yourself to a good shrink before all of that self hatred kills you.
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It could be said that it's weak to seek attention and validation of one's ideas from strangers in a chat room.
""""A circle of strong people growing stronger from alliance with one another is one thing""
Yup! I call it "MY family"
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To entertain such a thesis one must ask... what is your purpose? is your DNA needed? why are you so "weak" as to need to mate with anyone? I don't care to see most of the genetic material spread.
So you are hatched and after you are no longer a parasite, then what purpose do you serve? You suck off an earth that would be far better off if you didn't exist. Animals would be far better off had people not made their mark. So exactly what is the purpose for life? No one would care you exist. You are a loner in a planet that has no purpose for you, you are largely forgettable.
Sounds like a lonely thesis. while we may be capable of existing a solitary life...why?
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What you're basically saying is that a world with love, and the relationships and responsibilities that go with it, makes you weak. I think it makes you stronger. I pity you, and I hope you're young enough that you grow out of being so bitter--it sounds like you must have had an awful, loveless childhood. If you keep on this path, you're going to die a very lonely person.
For all of you who i disagree with most of the time well said if i could rep each of you i would
I am not a sociologist, but isn't the family the first basic building block of a community?
Doesn't how we learn to communicate and get along and support each other in a family then translate to how we do so in a community setting?
And given how self-centered and lazy most people are, how are you going to ensure that adults give a damn about any kid that is not their own?
Yes, of course you are lefter than left...you want a commune setting. We all know that does not work on a large scale because the default human setting is selfishness and laziness.
His views are lefter than left. It's a me me me and who cares about anyone else way to see things. The left view is. Yet, it is those on the left that say the right way of thinking is like this. No way.
Conservatives often say liberals are "anti-family". Well, I'm mostly to the left of most liberals, but I do admit, I am anti-family. Once upon a time, the family unit may have served a purpose (as did picking live out of one another's hair and burning dried dung for fuel) but now, it is simply an outdated institution.
Which brings me to the thesis statement: family, in modern times, is a crutch for the weak. Honestly, what is more pathetic than a grown man who still needs his mommy? Granted, family may be necessary for financial obligations, but one could just as easily enter some other agreement devoid of the emotion baggage that comes with family. People may say "I need the love of my family" Well, that right there is the weakness: only the weak need love outside of self love. The true ubermensch is confident within himself/herself and requires no such support. Sorry, but when I hear people crying about their family I can't help but wonder if they'll start crying about their stuffed animal next.
Children need an adult figure in their lives, but why do adults need people whom they share .001% more DNA in common with than someone in another continent? Why not go forward, headstrong, not weighed down by the parasites who brought you into this world?
And also, family is unnatural. Do birds return to the nest after they leave? Do wolves return to their mothers after they learn to hunt and find their own mates? Predators, the higher animals, all abandon their families after they are no longer useful. It is only the herd animals that stay with them. Who wants to be a grazing sheep, requiring the safety of the herd when one could be a snow leopard, alone on the prowl?
And the financial obligations! Why should I support my aging father? Yes, he supported me, but that was him being a sucker. Children never ask to be born. It is all vanity on the part of the parents. It is an investment that will never see a return. Why should anyone feel anything for the people whom went ahead and created them without asking for life?
I intent to work and retire (maybe) at a very old age. With the money I safe having never had children and never given a dime to the parasites who brought me into this world I will have a more than comfortable existence. That is the path of strength: ignoring all ties of family. No need for mommy's shoulder to cry on at age thirty, no need for daddy to pat you on the head for doing a good job at forty. Only one's self to impress and perhaps those whose accomplishments have made them worthy of esteem.
Please note: I am referring to "traditional" family here, not circles of friends or military bands etc whom are often compared to family. Those are adults lending their strengths to a greater cause by free association, not obligations we are allegedly born into. A circle of strong people growing stronger from alliance with one another is one thing...a grown man crying to his mommy because his girlfriend left him is another.
So, it is unnatural for people to be close to their family, but you think it is natural for us to devolve to the practices of less intelligent anilmals? And apathy for our family is a sign of strength? If love of your family is a weakness, then so are any bonds that you can have with any other person. So, if you have some poor soul who is willing to befriend you, and you accept their friendship(which is a form of love), than you are displaying weakness also. Why not go further and say that a true sign of ultimate strength is only loving yourself and any empathy or charity towards another human is weakness? The only thing I can say positively about your rant is that I'm glad you are choosing not to have any children. Thanks for taking yourself out of the gene pool.
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So because you had a crappy family life, the whole institutions stinks and is a farce.
Ok.
Got it.
I had a decent family life once my mother divorced my dad and stayed away from the extended families especially on his side.
What I'm saying is it is not all it is cracked up to be for SOME people. I know it is definitely not for me. Especially if I HAVE to have kids (which I definitely do not want) on top of a marriage (which I'm debating whether I want or not.)
this has got to be one of the strangest threads ever. i'm glad to say it makes no sense to me..
It makes more sense than his/her race threads, which are abominable.
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Granted, family may be necessary for financial obligations, but one could just as easily enter some other agreement devoid of the emotion baggage that comes with family. People may say "I need the love of my family" Well, that right there is the weakness: only the weak need love outside of self love. The true ubermensch is confident within himself/herself and requires no such support. Sorry, but when I hear people crying about their family I can't help but wonder if they'll start crying about their stuffed animal next. 
? And apathy for our family is a sign of strength? If love of your family is a weakness, then so are any bonds that you can have with any other person. So, if you have some poor soul who is willing to befriend you, and you accept their friendship(which is a form of love), than you are displaying weakness also. Why not go further and say that a true sign of ultimate strength is only loving yourself and any empathy or charity towards another human is weakness? The only thing I can say positively about your rant is that I'm glad you are choosing not to have any children. Thanks for taking yourself out of the gene pool.
