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Old 11-09-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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The Republican Party is going to drop the abortion issue like a hot potato. You watch. I can see the wheels starting to turn every time I peek in on Fox. Laura Ingram is no dummy even if I don't agree with most of her political stance.

They will divorce themselves from the most radical among you. They have to; pure and simple in order to survive.

And something tells me that they WILL want another Republican in the White House come 2016. Will you be on the bus or off the bus?
Why? If anything, the U.S. has become more pro-life over the past 20 years.

However, issues like abortion won't take center stage when the economy is in the hole.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Why? If anything, the U.S. has become more pro-life over the past 20 years.

However, issues like abortion won't take center stage when the economy is in the hole.
But Romney ran on the economy and avoided social issues like the plague. Romney lost.

Obama ran on social issues alone. Obama won.

This election was all about social issues. If it were about the economy Obama would not have been re-elected.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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How can they be pro-abortion with they are out numbering other races? Plus whites have been aborting and contraception themselves out of existence. Maybe Latinos will follow their lead and stop growing in numbers so fast.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:50 PM
 
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But Romney ran on the economy and avoided social issues like the plague. Romney lost.

Obama ran on social issues alone. Obama won.

This election was all about social issues. If it were about the economy Obama would not have been re-elected.

Too true and since we are about to fall off the fiscal cliff those social issues won't mean a thing in the future. People will only be concentrating on keeping their heads above water.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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But Romney ran on the economy and avoided social issues like the plague. Romney lost.

Obama ran on social issues alone. Obama won.

This election was all about social issues. If it were about the economy Obama would not have been re-elected.
I beg to differ. Romney's fiscal policies were a disaster in the making......we would have ended up in a deeper hole than Bush had us in.

Obama has this country firmly on the right path fiscally, socially and internationally. Win/Win/Win.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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How can they be pro-abortion with they are out numbering other races? Plus whites have been aborting and contraception themselves out of existence. Maybe Latinos will follow their lead and stop growing in numbers so fast.
I am an expert in studying demographic trends as a GIS Specialist and the vast majority of counties in all states in the US have been seeing sharp declines in birth rates within the last 5-10 years. This has to do with numerous factors including: more people getting additional education/training, a less strong labor market with staganant/declining wages relative to inflation means people decide not to have kids or have them at later ages, the average age of marriage is increasing for both genders, and the higher cost of living in some parts of the US tends to skew demographic trends toward high earning career oriented singles and DINKs over larger concentrations of families. Rural areas are aging at an extremely rapid rate with most younger people leaving and moving to nearby towns and cities with better employment opportunities.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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I've got plenty of company in here in the deep red counties of northern California. I'm not looking for company.

I wouldn't mind a little representation, though, and it ain't happening here.
That is an amusing map because Del Norte county actually went for Romney. I was sure the only coastal county that went for Romney was Orange county.
California cost of living must have increased as voters approved all tax measures on the ballot. Some people who are a bit more fiscally conservative could have voted for Obama, but they might have voted down tax increase measures. I predict more out-migration out of California to Texas, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, etc.
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:32 AM
 
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I am an expert in studying demographic trends as a GIS Specialist and the vast majority of counties in all states in the US have been seeing sharp declines in birth rates within the last 5-10 years. This has to do with numerous factors including: more people getting additional education/training, a less strong labor market with staganant/declining wages relative to inflation means people decide not to have kids or have them at later ages, the average age of marriage is increasing for both genders, and the higher cost of living in some parts of the US tends to skew demographic trends toward high earning career oriented singles and DINKs over larger concentrations of families. Rural areas are aging at an extremely rapid rate with most younger people leaving and moving to nearby towns and cities with better employment opportunities.

Well it doesn't matter what the reasons, the premise is the same. People aborting and contracepting. The races that do it the most will be the minority.
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Well it doesn't matter what the reasons, the premise is the same. People aborting and contracepting. The races that do it the most will be the minority.
"Poliltical parties" have no business focusing on personal "social issues." Those concerns need to be left up to individuals and doctors who can make informed decisons about those matters. Kansas is way out of the mainstream politically, and it sure hasn't gone anywhere in years economically outside of JOCO because all the politicians focus on pointless issues that mean nothing to the constiuency. Brownback and Kansas remains a joke.
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Old 11-10-2012, 01:12 AM
 
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"Poliltical parties" have no business focusing on personal "social issues." Those concerns need to be left up to individuals and doctors who can make informed decisons about those matters. Kansas is way out of the mainstream politically, and it sure hasn't gone anywhere in years economically outside of JOCO because all the politicians focus on pointless issues that mean nothing to the constiuency. Brownback and Kansas remains a joke.
That's a laugh. With Obamacare we will soon have a panel of politicians deciding on our medical issues, not our doctors.

Yep KS is way backward even to the point that Brownback sent back some government money when we didn't need it. THE AUDASITY OF HIM. We all know if you get money from the government you have to spend it even if on crazy and unneeded things.
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