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(And, sorry Wingers- still no connection with Benghazi )
You are right - the affair is a separate issue, and I have yet to read anywhere how it is linked to Benghazi other than the timing of his resignation as he was to appear in his capacity as D/CIA at the committee hearings. As I understand it, he will, as a civilian, be subpeonaed by the committee (s?) to testify regarding Benghazi.
When the truth comes out (and THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT!), it will be found that Obama lied about giving the order to save Ambassador Stevens. Obama did NOT give such an order. Thus, Obama let or allowed (actually promoted) the killing of Ambassador Stevens, as well as the other three Americans.
And what would Obama have to gain by intentionally allowing him to be killed? In what alternate state of existence does this make sense?
It would seem that your hatred of Obama leads to such desperation to blame anything and everything on him that you have succumbed to reasoning in violent contradiction to common sense...not to mention without any shred of evidence.
Ok this is easy to figure out. This release of information by agents to the Times who refuse both their identity and the identity of the third women is full of holes. The very fact that they hand picked The Times is suspicious to begin with.
So....what are the facts in this particular portion of the told story and known facts.
1) I will follow a strong possibility that the emails were real, but fabricated. There is no third women. A women who gets threatening emails from another jealous girl is specifically told in those emails the reason for the aggression. You can put that in the bank.
2) The next item you can put in the bank is a girl or women that receives such aggressive emails is very affected by the threats. The first thing she would do is try and find out if she could stop the aggression as quickly as possible once she felt in potentially real, danger. We know the first thing the women would do is contact the guy, he was married, the third women already knows she is cheating on Holly the wife. Why would she go to the FBI and sequel ...( the third women would know that is exactly what she is doing, revenge ok but it contradicts a future with the guy which contradicts the root revenge, women are NOT stupid..and without bringing the complaint to his attention which is the first normal reaction is not believable, thats a problem...check.
Opinion holds these emails were planted, there is no third women. It would seem at this point entirely illogical. All behavior is out of step in profound ways, add to it the tremendous amount of evidence against those in control, and the method , style of operations in hastey make believe emotionally charged stories to distract.
One of the first things aggressors and manipulators do to show intent is attack the women, the closest to the target.
Here's what fits the bill much better.
1)...They knew he was cheating and it wasn't enough for a favor to bend whatever to suit taste.
2)...A fictitious third women was created to rock the boat connecting employment duty and responsibilities for greater leverage.
3)...A phone call or private emails that we are NOT hearing about, were construed by the phoney women to show DP the power, to completely destroy David Petraeus stellar loyal and dedicated life in all the many hard worked for area's. These accomplishments don't forget would have made up quite a bit of his entire ego, a necessary for existence itself.
4)...The above arranged contact would have erroneously "assumed the fictitious relationship" and fully made aware to David Petraeus of a concern of threat and ALL measures put in motion to escape the phony threat. A play on theater.
5) Once above takes place, Petraeus knows he has been trapped intentionally and both work and home is on the line. Absolute power over another save the honesty button which in fact, destroys everything he worked for. ( so the aggressive thinks
6) Aggressors always challenge honesty and think the odds are greater that the target will think just like them and push honesty aside to save the materialistic in life as the irreducible in the individual. ....Well thats because its how life is perceived for the aggressor, any other mode for final interior decision has never been experienced, it is heard about but not experienced in self and therefore the villain continues exploring the potential in self by the deconstruction of another.
7) These things would not be shocking for a trained highly intelligent agent. It looks to me DP stretched it and refuse's to be manipulated. He made a mistake though, the usual mistake for bright guys...he thought that he could get away with not exposing everything once all the stories were in motion, just like the whole lot of them
8) With communication what it is today and the scouring over of all the hard facts, this administration is trying to pull the wool over 6 billion eyes and it will not work.
9) Stories after stories.
10) Finally , this story is not believable against behavior, and believable against motive for fabrication, thats what they all missed on behalf of the population. A habit of continuously thinking you can play people gone to far. The real leader now will become the people, as it should and must be teaching the reps what people need first and foremost is sincerity, manifested out of honesty alone. Polite opinion as usual and "could be wrong" but it seems as though were not getting anything like straight answers, esp with this sneaky non upfront release....all it does is say we are hiding stuff. They all gotta know its looking pretty bad, and then come up with this junk. Oprah style to boot.
Last edited by stargazzer; 11-11-2012 at 01:53 AM..
I don't know if it was or not, as I don't know when he began to sleep around. But if Petraeus theoretically did not begin having an affair until after he was appointed CIA director, then it would have been literally illogical and impossible for it to have been "hushed up" during his vetting for the post.
In fact, the whole thing can be easily explained with one simple fact: take a look at General Petraeus's wife. Then you will understand why he cheated.
One of the officials said the recipient of the emails complained to Petraeus about them and the FBI later obtained emails between Petraeus and Broadwell in which they discussed the harassment.
The investigators first interviewed Petraeus about two weeks ago, the officials said.
One of the officials said Justice Department officials were unclear on what to do after they concluded there would be no charges against the CIA director or Broadwell and there had been no breach of national security.
"What was our responsibility?" said one of the officials. "We were in an area where we'd never been before."
The notification came Tuesday evening, while polls were still open in an election that would return President Obama to office for four more years.
"Director Clapper learned of the situation from the FBI on Tuesday evening around 5 p.m.," a senior U.S. intelligence official said. "In subsequent conversations with Director Petraeus, Director Clapper advised Director Petraeus to resign." The official said Clapper has been fully briefed on the FBI investigation and has not called for his office or CIA to conduct a follow-up probe or damage assessment, indicating Clapper does not see the case as a security threat
Interesting that it was determined there was no breach of national security and no charges would be brought against Peatreaus and Broadwell, Clapper also not seeing the case as a security threat, yet Clapper advised Petraeus to resign because he had an affair - when did that become a crime? If it was just about an affair, it could have been buried and never seen daylight, or if leaked, denied and labelled a rumor.
Clapper determined that an affair warranted a resignation??
On another note: Broadwell is laughing all the way to the bank with this one. Her book went from the bottom to #73 on Amazon. Do people really believe they are going to find out more to the affair than what has already been released - which is just about nothing? Yes folks, line Broadwell's pocket with your foolishness. You're not going to learn anything new. You will have to wait for her next book when she actually writes about the affair.
Last edited by softblueyz; 11-11-2012 at 01:40 AM..
He brings up a good point. Why wasn't this affair discovered by the CIA when he was being vetted for the job as Central Intelligence head? And if they did discover it, why was he given the top job? You have to give it to Pat. He is one smart guy. I believe that this whole situation is fixing to backfire right in Obama's face. I believe that if the David Petraeus loves his country and is asked to testify, he will take the stand and tell the real truth about Benghazi under oath. This affair could be a blessing in disguise because it might just cause Obama's impeachment and end his presidency.
Now it is being reported that republican Eric Cantor was informed two weeks ago by a FBI whistle-blower of Petraeus having a affair and then Cantor's chief of staff alerted FBI officials who alerted the FBI Director Mueller. Now of all people, why alert Cantor?
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor spoke to an FBI whistle-blower two weeks ago who accused then-CIA Director David Petraeus of having an extramarital affair and potentially jeopardizing the security of classified information, according to a news report.
Cantor’s chief of staff, Steve Stombres, later met with FBI officials to pass on the accusations from the whistle-blower, the New York Times reported on Saturday night.
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