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Old 11-28-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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The confederacy winning wouldn't have saved slavery.
Allow me to respectfully disagree.
Yes, by mid 19th century slavery was in decline but many wanted to keep the existing situation as long as possible. If the war ended without passing the 13th amendment, very few (including in the North) would have had any interest to change that status-quo. It was convenient and dealing with ending slavery, could open a can of worms: will blacks be allowed to vote? full citizenship? interracial marriages?
One can see even today, when debating a new bill, conservatives jump with: "its a slippery slope" "its the beginning, but where will it end?", etc. When Obamacare was debated, conservative justices were concerned that based on such precedent, next day US government may force its citizens to eat broccoli, since its a slippery slope! The Confederacy wasn't alone. I just learned that the upstate NY Town Line, did vote to secede from the Union, contributing several troops to the Confederacy. NYC mayor Frrnando Woods, suggested that NYC (!) should secede from the union, since he was involved in lucrative cotton commerce with the South. Confederacy had lots of sympathizers in the North. If the 13th amendment wasn't approved, slavery could well enter into the 20th century.

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Old 11-28-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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The confederacy winning wouldn't have saved slavery.
The south was as wary of increasing slave population as the rest of the country. So, if anything, importation of more slaves was the common ground where neither side wanted to continue. However, emancipation of slaves was off the table for the South. In fact, the leading culprit, South Carolina, was into the idea of secession for a long time, since the Articles of Confederation days.
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