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Old 12-18-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: under a rock
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Well excuse me but I don't see why car death is any better than sword or gun death. Are those lives worth less? Someone explain this to me.

The only reasoning I can come up with is that the benefits of car ownership outweigh the 40,000 yearly deaths.
I don't know about that. I personally bought my car for the explicit reason to kill/protect myself and hunt(don't knock road kill til ya try it!). Way more convenient than a gun and I can maul over innocent bystanders while jamming to classic rock tunes! Turn it up, man
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I just want one of them to admit that they believe the benefits of transportation by automobile to be worth 40,000 deaths per year.
As soon as you admit that the preservation of our 2nd Amendment rights, as loosely interpreted in today's America, is worth 30,000 deaths a year.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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I don't know about that. I personally bought my car for the explicit reason to kill/protect myself and hunt(don't knock road kill til ya try it!). Way more convenient than a gun and I can maul over innocent bystanders while jamming to classic rock tunes! Turn it up, man
How is that relevant? Logically, it makes no difference. Zero.

Do you consider the benefits of transportation by automobile to be worth 40,000 deaths by year?
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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The winds of change are blowing at gale force and you guys are still too stupid to turn around when you pee.
Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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I just want one of them to admit that they believe the benefits of transportation by automobile to be worth 40,000 deaths per year.
A lot of gun control advocates happen to be pro-public transport/anti-car as well.

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Re-read the OP: numbers are irrelevant. So you would shrug at a mother who had her child killed by a sword?



A few deaths mean nothing to me. My advice to the people shocked at school shooting is this: SUCK IT UP. People die, even kids sometimes, and S***t happens.
Sir/Mam, I think you illustrate what's wrong with American society.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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I just want one of them to admit that they believe the benefits of transportation by automobile to be worth 40,000 deaths per year.

Exactly. I will say the unthinkable: THE OCCASIONAL MASS MURDER IS WORTH THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE TO OWN GUNS AND BE FREE.

Will they say the same thing about the right to drive or own a sword?
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'm just pointing out the obvious.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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Well excuse me but I don't see why car death is any better than sword or gun death. Are those lives worth less? Someone explain this to me.

The only reasoning I can come up with is that the benefits of car ownership outweigh the 40,000 yearly deaths.
Nonsense. You're one of the smarter posters around here so chill with that bullsh*t.

It comes down to reasonable expectations. When I get in my car, I know the odds. But a car is a necessity in most of America.

No one expects to drop their kids off at school at 0800 hrs only to have them shot the eff up by 0930.

But of course, you knew that already for the reasons that I outlined in my first sentence. SMH...

Unreal.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Exactly. I will say the unthinkable: THE OCCASIONAL MASS MURDER IS WORTH THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE TO OWN GUNS AND BE FREE.
Finally, some moral clarity.
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