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Your going to sit here and claim that mental patients aren't a threat but people in Idaho who you claim are all klan members are. Where are your facts that the folks in Idaho are a threat to kill everyone??
We threw the Aryan Nations out a decade ago. They went back to California.
None of which matters with regard to the OP...which was dealing with a simple issue of how to keep the mentally ill, particularly those that have been determined to be mentally incompetent, from buying guns. What good does all the bleating about the "gun show loophole" do if we still don't have a database that identifies the insane and makes it possible to prevent sales to them? What does forcing private sales to go through a licensed dealer do? A background check is meaningless if people that aren't allowed to buy guns aren't in the database in the first place. It sounds like Florida at least has a process for getting the violently insane off the streets, does this data go to the feds for incorporation into NICS? How about the remaining 56 states?
Of course. the anti-gun crowd won't be able to answer and will bloviate about white separatists instead, rather than debate the issue. When ya got nothin', ya got nothin' to loose.
Last edited by Toyman at Jewel Lake; 12-19-2012 at 08:14 PM..
"The legal procedure for declaring a person incompetent consists of three steps: (1) a motion for a competency hearing, (2) a psychiatric or psychological evaluation, and (3) a competency hearing. Probate courts usually handle competency proceedings, which guarantee the allegedly incompetent person Due Process of Law"
At the competency hearing a person can be committed for four months. Read the link. People in the State of Florida do get committed to mental health facilities if they are found mentally incompetent and there is no one to take care of them.
I was referring to The Baker Act in Florida. It's a rather simple process. It's increasingly common for desperate parents to invoke this process on their teen children who struggle with suicide ideation and drug addiction issues. It's an evaluation and stabilization process and rarely leads to a competency hearing.
We threw the Aryan Nations out a decade ago. They went back to California.
None of which matters with regard to the OP...which was dealing with a simple issue of how to keep the mentally ill, particularly those that have been determined to be mentally incompetent, from buying guns. What good does all the bleating about the "gun show loophole" do if we still don't have a database that identifies the insane and makes it possible to prevent sales to them? What does forcing private sales to go through a licensed dealer do? A background check is meaningless if people that aren't allowed to buy guns aren't in the database in the first place. It sounds like Florida at least has a process for getting the violently insane off the streets, does this data go to the feds for incorporation into NICS? How about the remaining 56 states?
Of course. the anti-gun crowd won't be able to answer and will bloviate about white separatists instead, rather than debate the issue. When ya got nothin', ya got nothin' to loose.
Debate what issue? There is no causation between mental illness and homicidal behavior. Notice how I continually ask you folks to produce any evidence that there is and you continually come up with bupkis?
KUChief accidentally stumbled towards the truth in one of his grunts when he castigated everyone speculating on what mental illness had befallen the shooter. He blames it on "evil." I hate to use that term because it has certain supernatural connotations to it with many Americans. The simple fact is that from time-to-time, sane people choose to do extremely destructive things. Even randomly kill human beings. That doesn't make them "crazy." I know that's difficult for many of you to comprehend, but try a little harder.
I'm against any and all of these registries. Just more government overhead and "Big Brother" monitoring of her citizens. It started with pedos.....If you can't trust them out of the pen then keep them locked up or hang them but trailing someone out in the real world is not how we want to live as a society.
We threw the Aryan Nations out a decade ago. They went back to California.
None of which matters with regard to the OP...which was dealing with a simple issue of how to keep the mentally ill, particularly those that have been determined to be mentally incompetent, from buying guns. What good does all the bleating about the "gun show loophole" do if we still don't have a database that identifies the insane and makes it possible to prevent sales to them? What does forcing private sales to go through a licensed dealer do? A background check is meaningless if people that aren't allowed to buy guns aren't in the database in the first place. It sounds like Florida at least has a process for getting the violently insane off the streets, does this data go to the feds for incorporation into NICS? How about the remaining 56 states?
Of course. the anti-gun crowd won't be able to answer and will bloviate about white separatists instead, rather than debate the issue. When ya got nothin', ya got nothin' to loose.
I've wondered the same thing. If you have seizures, your doctor reports you to the DMV and you cannot legally drive. Why can't we have mentally unstable reported and not allowed to buy guns? Seems a pretty common sense solution.
I've wondered the same thing. If you have seizures, your doctor reports you to the DMV and you cannot legally drive. Why can't we have mentally unstable reported and not allowed to buy guns? Seems a pretty common sense solution.
It wouldn't have stopped what happened at Sandy Hook so you are fighting windmills here Quixote.
Debate what issue? There is no causation between mental illness and homicidal behavior. Notice how I continually ask you folks to produce any evidence that there is and you continually come up with bupkis?
KUChief accidentally stumbled towards the truth in one of his grunts when he castigated everyone speculating on what mental illness had befallen the shooter. He blames it on "evil." I hate to use that term because it has certain supernatural connotations to it with many Americans. The simple fact is that from time-to-time, sane people choose to do extremely destructive things. Even randomly kill human beings. That doesn't make them "crazy." I know that's difficult for many of you to comprehend, but try a little harder.
I'm still waiting...........
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