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lmao I forgot all about this. No one owns their property unless they have an allodial title which I think is only available now in Texas and Florida. You own the house, you rent the land.
There is no true allodial land in the U.S.
U.S. land is subject to eminent domain by federal, state and local government, and subject to the imposition of taxes by state and/or local governments. Eminent domain trumps an allodial title.
*Both Nevada and Texas have provisions for Allodial title within state law. Reportedly, these provisions do not permit the title to transfer and may only serve to limit taxes on unimproved unincorporated land. Reportedly, Nevada acceptated applications for allodial title up till 2005 when the Federal Government made clear it would not relinquish it's rights.
I can't afford a standard city lot and it's unlawful to divide said lots into affordable subsets, so I am prohibited from purchasing what I can afford.
That's a very local zoning issue.
That you cannot afford, is not likely going to be viewed as a valid reason to override a zoning law.
There are 20-100 acres horse properties in my neck of the woods. Sure would be easier to sell if they could be sub-divided and built. A lot more revenue for the village, too. Nonetheless, the majority of people do not favor sub division or new tax revenues, over open land.
That you cannot afford, is not likely going to be viewed as a valid reason to override a zoning law.
There are 20-100 acres horse properties in my neck of the woods. Sure would be easier to sell if they could be sub-divided and built. A lot more revenue for the village, too. Nonetheless, the majority of people do not favor sub division or new tax revenues, over open land.
It is almost universal in North America outside of rural areas - the only thing 'local' about it is the amount of land required; sometimes 20 acres, sometimes one-fifth.
Yes I understand that economic class is not a protected class in this country; class warfare is entirely legal and plays out daily in our laws and ordinances.
First you prevent poor people from buying property they can afford, then you tax upp the wazoo the rented homes of the poor. (In Michigan the school property tax rate on rental property is four times the rate on owner-occupied homes, amounting to an average $1,500 per year extra property tax on rental houses.)
So I don't wanna hear conservatives whine about class warfare when they are engaging it every day.
There is so much bull**** spread on the issue of "rights" that it is always important to return to basics.
1. There are actually no such thing as "natural rights." All of the natural world is a mockery of any such concepts as "rights," "morality," "justice," or "right and wrong."
2. Rights are not "endowed by a creator" nor are they genuinely "inalienable" as proven by the fact that through so much of human history and across the globe even today, many people do not have them. They are demonstrably alienable. Every last one.
3. The history of the development and proliferation of "rights" is an explicit record of them always having been originally taken and secured by force. Originally, this was by individuals or small groups, usually related by blood kinship. To the extent that societies have gone on to establish rights as "universal," that is invariably the aftermath of the previous seizure of such rights by increasingly comprehensive groups in a position of coercive power. The larger the group participating in "rule," the broader access to rights.
4. The development and proliferation of rights has further always been the result of liberal ascendance over ideological conservatism. All the rights that conservatives hold so dearly today are only theirs to hold because their ideological fore-bearers failed to prevent it. Today's conservatism is always yesterday's liberalism.
5. Some governments protect rights, and others do not. And this is entirely a reflection of the faction in power and the prevailing zeitgeist, not some inherent capacity of governments to do either.
Would you then agree that poor Americans live in an unjust country?
It is almost universal in North America outside of rural areas - the only thing 'local' about it is the amount of land required; sometimes 20 acres, sometimes one-fifth.
Yes I understand that economic class is not a protected class in this country; class warfare is entirely legal and plays out daily in our laws and ordinances.
First you prevent poor people from buying property they can afford, then you tax upp the wazoo the rented homes of the poor. (In Michigan the school property tax rate on rental property is four times the rate on owner-occupied homes, amounting to an average $1,500 per year extra property tax on rental houses.)
So I don't wanna hear conservatives whine about class warfare when they are engaging it every day.
Why do you keep referring to yourself as "poor"? You obviously have a roof over your head, food in your belly, and access to a computer. You don't seem to be in danger of starving to death, dying of thirst or freezing to death. That's more than many folks in this world can say.
You keep whining about being poor, yet you are hardly that. You just feel entitled to something that you feel you deserve. Why? Just because you "want it"? Well, welcome to the real world. This isn't about property rights. It's about either being satisfied with what you have, or changing your personal situation without making excuses.
You need property values to rise so that WHEN you do sell, you can sell.
And, home values are directly correlated with "lifestyle"...
Involuntary renters need property values to NOT rise so that they can afford to keep a roof over their head, as well as to maintain ANY hope of ever being able to buy a home.
Government should not be in the business of picking winners (homeowners) and losers (renters). One more example of top-down class warfare in this country. It should be up to the market not to government.
Do they come from God, from man through government, or from what?
The ruling political power in all real and practical purposes.
Philosophically I don't believe anyone legitimately owns the ground. I do however believe that there are custodial rights to any land that has fixtures attached it like buildings and homes. However the territorial right is a creation of the state, and is in fact a state granted monopoly. It ought to serve as the primary tax base. Any income the government by its action creates , should serve as its income. Any thing of value that is produced with no direct link to the state is one's own personal property that should have no policy attached to it other than you made it and its yours.
The right to own property justly acquired, comes from the very nature of Man himself. If you believe Man was created by God, then the right came from God. If not, not. But it is somethinng Man had simply by virtue of being born. Government had nothing to do with it - govt came later.
The only reason govt has anything to do with the right to own property justly acquired, is because sometime other men try to take your property away from you unjustly. Then men has agreed to get together with is fellow men to stop that thief from doing it, and/or to restore the property to you, its rightful owner.
The agreement to prevent others from taking your property, or to restore it to you, comes from man. That guarantee doesn't kick in until AFTER you own property and someone tries to take it from you unjustly. Your right to own that property in the first place, comes from the fact that you are human.
Some people have the mistaken belief that, since some people have the ability to take your property away from you unjustly, this means that you have no "right" to own it. They try to claim that since govt gets involved in restoring your property to you, this means that govt gave you the right to own it in the first place. These fundamental errors are very useful to those who do not want you to own property. They are often one and the same with those who want to take it unjustly.
So when you plant a flag somewhere, just how much land does that claim under God?
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