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Old 12-28-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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Prosecutor: Pediatric dentist facing child porn possession charges - CNN.com

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A pediatric dentist charged with possession and distribution of child pornography can still treat children at his Framingham, Massachusetts, dental office under a judge's ruling, according to a news release from the Middlesex district attorney's office.
While yes innocent until proven guilty I cannot see how anyone will still bring their kid to this dentist. I am not a paranoid person by nature but when it comes to my kid I am not leaving anything to chance that is in my control.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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"While the case remains under development and investigation, there is currently no evidence that presently leads law enforcement to believe that Ehrlich physically abused any children or manufactured any images of child pornography," the news release said.


Do people feel comfortable that all it takes is to posses something? If I don't like someone I guess all I need to do is load an image on someone's laptop while they are at lunch and then call the police.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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Prosecutor: Pediatric dentist facing child porn possession charges - CNN.com



While yes innocent until proven guilty I cannot see how anyone will still bring their kid to this dentist. I am not a paranoid person by nature but when it comes to my kid I am not leaving anything to chance that is in my control.
I don't blame you. Now if he is your dentist, I see no reason for an adult to continue to see him until he is convicted.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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"While the case remains under development and investigation, there is currently no evidence that presently leads law enforcement to believe that Ehrlich physically abused any children or manufactured any images of child pornography," the news release said.


Do people feel comfortable that all it takes is to posses something? If I don't like someone I guess all I need to do is load an image on someone's laptop while they are at lunch and then call the police.
Well considering the fact that possessing and distributing child porn is illegal and there was apparently evidence that he possessed and distributed it under different usernames makes me comfortable with it. He was arrested (warrant) for the possession and distribution based on what was found on the computer.

That being said if it comes out that the Tech Person that worked on the computer was the one that did it then obviously that should be reported just a feverishly as this.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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Well considering the fact that possessing and distributing child porn is illegal and there was apparently evidence that he possessed and distributed it under different usernames makes me comfortable with it. He was arrested (warrant) for the possession and distribution based on what was found on the computer.

That being said if it comes out that the Tech Person that worked on the computer was the one that did it then obviously that should be reported just a feverishly as this.

Well technically downloading an image of a 17 year old holding a banana suggestively falls under the definition.

What is Child Pornography?

I tend to think we need to concentrate on people who produce the material with 4 year 8 and 12 year olds and then distribute it.


Same reason I don't like the drug laws. Someone plants coke in your car, you are on the hook.

Former Narcotics Detective Admits Drug Planting Common
Stephen Anderson, a former New York Police Department (NYPD) narcotics detective, recently testified that he regularly saw police plant drugs on innocent people as a way for officers to meet arrest quotas.
I don't want to protect children so they can grow up to be raped in prison.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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Utilizing Social Stigma is a huge weapon for Law Enforcement.

I doubt this person is innocent but let's just imagine for a second that he is innocent of the charges.

Effectively his life has been changed for the worse and potentially his livelyhood taken away from him.

Most people with children will never trust him again. Self preservation kicks in right or wrong.

I know I wouldn't just on the off chance....
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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Utilizing Social Stigma is a huge weapon for Law Enforcement.

I doubt this person is innocent but let's just imagine for a second that he is innocent of the charges.

Effectively his life has been changed for the worse and potentially his livelyhood taken away from him.

Most people with children will never trust him again. Self preservation kicks in right or wrong.

I know I wouldn't just on the off chance....
It's not just law enforcement though being that this is public information in the first place. I can see the point of making something like this public because let's say the police say nothing and it's not reported anywhere. Then a kid goes to said dentist, is molested then it comes out the police knew but said nothing yet it is still public information.

I usually walk a pretty tight line when it comes to people's rights but once kids are involved I get much more sensitive to the fact that they are usually defenseless. That being said if he is found innocent beyond a reasonable doubt then I have no problem sending my child back to him as a dentist. I just let him know that while innocent, if I find out something about my child he is dead.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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It's not just law enforcement though being that this is public information in the first place. I can see the point of making something like this public because let's say the police say nothing and it's not reported anywhere. Then a kid goes to said dentist, is molested then it comes out the police knew but said nothing yet it is still public information.

I usually walk a pretty tight line when it comes to people's rights but once kids are involved I get much more sensitive to the fact that they are usually defenseless. That being said if he is found innocent beyond a reasonable doubt then I have no problem sending my child back to him as a dentist. I just let him know that while innocent, if I find out something about my child he is dead.
No such thing in cases such as these. There will always be that lingering question in most people's minds.

What if it was you as a father that has falsely accused.

Perfect example is the Priest pedofilia problem the Catholic Church deals with. Eventhough your 10 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by a public school teacher or family member/close family friend.

Do you look at your male friends the same as you look at a male priest? You should they are more likely to molest your children.

That's the problem with social stimga as a weapon.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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No such thing in cases such as these. There will always be that lingering question in most people's minds.

What if it was you as a father that has falsely accused.

Perfect example is the Priest pedofilia problem the Catholic Church deals with. Eventhough your 10 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by a public school teacher or family member/close family friend.

Do you look at your male friends the same as you look at a male priest? You should they are more likely to molest your children.

That's the problem with social stimga as a weapon.
I said I wouldn't have a problem sending my child back. Society as a whole I cannot speak for.

I find it difficult to compare public school/family member molestation to Church issues simply because of the cover ups and seemingly acceptance of it by religious organizations. An entity that willingly covers up child abuse in the manner in which they have makes me more suspicious of them than people I have either known all of my life or I am related to. That being said one can never be too safe BUT I trust my family and friends above those associated with an entity that hides as opposed to punishes.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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I said I wouldn't have a problem sending my child back. Society as a whole I cannot speak for.

I find it difficult to compare public school/family member molestation to Church issues simply because of the cover ups and seemingly acceptance of it by religious organizations. An entity that willingly covers up child abuse in the manner in which they have makes me more suspicious of them than people I have either known all of my life or I am related to. That being said one can never be too safe BUT I trust my family and friends above those associated with an entity that hides as opposed to punishes.
Families have hidden, covered up and overlooked child abuse of all forms form since the dawn of man.

The likelyhood of a coverup in your own circle of family and friends is much more likely than a coverup of a pedo Priest.

I am not defending the Church or it's actions merely using it as tool for you to see your own perception biases. As evidenced by your post above which is the response I expected.
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