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Read the OP link and see that the Greens provide the insurance program for their employees. ink.
No they provide squat. Hobby Lobby, Inc provides insurance. It is a legally separate entity, files taxes as an entity, not as individual income for the Greens.
Read the OP link and see that the Greens provide the insurance program for their employees. They pay the whole thing and surely do have a right to determine whether they buy morning after pills when they believe that human life begins at contraception.
These people provide the insurance but do not force their employees to use what they provide. You are like so many here who believe the media has never told a lie as a form of propaganda for old I Won. Your reply is purely out of order in that you didn't read the story and are trying to talk about what the OP said without knowing any of the story from the link.
You clearly do not understand the difference between a for-profit company and a religious non-profit organization. It doesn't matter if they pay 150% of their insurance, as a for-profit company they are suppose to obey the law and as a for-profit company, they are not covered under RFRA and they should know that.
Once again, there is no imposition here. He wants to offer an insurance plan which covers certain products and services. If you want your insurance to cover other products and services, then do not seek employment at Hobby Lobby. Employment at Hobby Lobby is voluntary. Nobody is forced to work at Hobby Lobby so therefore there is no imposition involved. Regardless of how one feels about contraception, this is just simple logic.
Good leaner logic always says that when Obama and company try to force you to do something his desires get to take the high ground. They don't understand that Green could just shut the company down to avoid paying that tremendous fine. How many unemployed people would hit the streets the next day. These leaners are able only to see that Obamacare is being accused of wrong doing. They just can't look at anything that might not go along with Obamacare.
It is unconstitutional to force others to pay and contribute to what is exactly known to be others "recreational...sex.
It would make more sense to pay the hotel bill so they do not get cold.
This thing for the recreational, a non necessitous in the guise of health should be a very easy argument....why not youngsters helmets for batting practice..?
whats more important looking out for the toddlers in this world or horsing around trying to act like a family guy with no job and making others who work pay.
Sorry, Nat, but it appears that you failed to read that link. You won't find one place in it that mentions a church or whether it pays taxes or not. What you will find is talk about the government forcing a business to pay for things the owners don't approve of.
How about you back down a bit and think what happens if the Greens close their stores, nationwide. When their former employees hit the unemployment lines will the unemployment for that time go up, remain the same or go down. I don't think the government can force a business to remain in business unless they pay them like they did the auto manufacturers. Do you really think that this whole thing is aimed at churches or is there a chance that the Obamas are trying to force people to live outside their moral beliefs? If you think the Obamas are right then you better get ready for a huge gain in unemployment. You haven't thought of that yet, have you?
How much you wanna bet that Mr. Hobby Lobby chooses $$$$ over his religion or closing his stores?
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I don't think you get to pick an choose what your health insurance provider covers and doesn't cover. One should be able to get their birth control covered through their insurance provider, heck just make the co-pay a little bit more so that it technically isn't being split with the employer.
I am very sure that you don't understand that Green can just shut down his deal with the insurer if he has to pay for the day after pill as Obamacare says he does. He can just shut down his deal with any insurer and then, if necessary, shut down the business. I wonder how many jobs that would cost just so our Obama government could force him to go against his morals. Look at what is happening, and maybe you can see what you are being told.
I am very sure that you don't understand that Green can just shut down his deal with the insurer if he has to pay for the day after pill as Obamacare says he does. He can just shut down his deal with any insurer and then, if necessary, shut down the business. I wonder how many jobs that would cost just so our Obama government could force him to go against his morals. Look at what is happening, and maybe you can see what you are being told.
Yep, you don't know the difference between a for-profit corporation and a non-profit religious group.
As for the rest of your post, this has already been explained to you what would happen to them if they simply tried to close their doors, it would not go well for them.
I am very sure that you don't understand that Green can just shut down his deal with the insurer if he has to pay for the day after pill as Obamacare says he does. He can just shut down his deal with any insurer and then, if necessary, shut down the business. I wonder how many jobs that would cost just so our Obama government could force him to go against his morals. Look at what is happening, and maybe you can see what you are being told.
Look, if some older gentleman can't get with the program and wants to act as the doctor/nurse instead of allowing his INSURER to dispense medication - then perhaps it is time he step aside and let another business fill the need. Obviously, he is unaware of where his role ends and the insurer steps in.
I'm sure there would be someone more than willing to step in when the Hobby Lobby ungracefully bows out.
[quote=Ringo1;27543918I'm sure there would be someone more than willing to step in when the Hobby Lobby ungracefully bows out.[/quote]
Correct, there are many others in the industry, and they would pick up HL's market share happily.
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