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Old 01-13-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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McChrystal. And he paid for it with his career. Far more courageous than Powell in that regard.
The point I'm making is it is not the place of military officers to criticize politicians. And in McChrystal's case direct superiors. It doesn't turn out well...
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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These are my posts. Nowhere in here did I challenge the racial undertone validity of the language. I merely questioned it and I'm sure there are alot of racial slang words I don't know about. They didn't have KKK schools where I've lived.

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Shuckin and jivin is racist? I'm pretty sure I've heard that phrase from movies that weren't racist. At any rate, Colin is pretty level headed it's a shame he never ran for president.
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Maybe for people above a certain age group it is. I've never heard it used in a racist way.
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Shuckin, jivin, groovin, boot scoot n booty and britches are not terms my friends and I use. I'm in a different demographic ad region for those terms, evidently.
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You're too late, I already posted that link. Thanks though!
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How can you challenge the racist undertones of shuckin & Jivin when you admit in this post that you lack the exposer and understanding to make a decent analytical observation? You previously questioned the racist nature of the words then you proceeded to suport your claim by citing their use in movies. You also conveniently left out the context/tone used when using said words in your observed entertainment flicks.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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These are my posts. Nowhere in here did I challenge the racial undertone validity of the language. I merely questioned it and I'm sure there are alot of racial slang words I don't know about. They didn't have KKK schools where I've lived.
Sorry about that.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I just read you link and all I can say is, wow. The Republican Party scraped the bottom of the barrel picking this loser...
Correct. Sarah Palin was the GOP equivalent of George Wallace, and not far removed from David Duke. At least, neither of them tried to get away with racist overtones via "cutesy" phrases.

John McCain should have formally apologized to the nation for his outragous VP pick.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Oh, Colin, for Pete's sake, shut up already.

You're making yourself look stupid. Again.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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These are my posts. Nowhere in here did I challenge the racial undertone validity of the language. I merely questioned it and I'm sure there are alot of racial slang words I don't know about. They didn't have KKK schools where I've lived.
Below is what I was referencing. This statement can either be construed as meaning "Shuckin and jivin is not racist" or it can mean "is Shuckin and jivin racist?" Your statement followed by a question mark set the tone.

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Shuckin and jivin is racist?
Now your below statement pointed me in the direction you meant the former. You provided direct experience that infers that you believe the term may not be racist. It is an argument that implies since not all applications are racist [i.e. the movies reference] the term may not be racist.

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I'm pretty sure I've heard that phrase from movies that weren't racist.
Now green_mariner provided a link showing some of the positions Sara Palin took as governor to provide a little more context around the situation. So with that said is Colin Powell right in his assessment? Was the example he provided adequate?
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Correct. Sarah Palin was the GOP equivalent of George Wallace, and not far removed from David Duke. At least, neither of them tried to get away with racist overtones via "cutesy" phrases.

John McCain should have formally apologized to the nation for his outragous VP pick.
Maybe he didn't know that she was so hickish and racist? Media reports prior to her selection made her seem like an intellectual and efficient executive.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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Oh, Colin, for Pete's sake, shut up already.

You're making yourself look stupid. Again.
No he is not. He is just exposing the problems in the GOP.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Maybe he didn't know that she was so hickish and racist?.
I hope that to be the case, but he needed to threaten to rebuke her publicly if need be, during the campaign. I recall Lieberman saying "Country before party", and McCain's silence was "Party before country". That made him, in 2008, a coward.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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Finally a Republican that speaks truth to power. Until Republican leaders like Powell emerge things will continue to go downhill for the GOP.



Colin Powell: GOP Holds 'Dark Vein Of Intolerance' (VIDEO)
Powell is a "race preference" politician and an idiot. Who cares what an idiot thinks? Perhaps people should think for themselves and not seek the "wisdom" of twits.
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