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Old 01-22-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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You present NO information....
from just this thread:

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"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

ankeny v daniels
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"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural-born citizen within the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."

-william rawle. constitutional scholar, lawyer, george washington appointee and guy that was around at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.
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primarily mario apuzzo and larry klayman....... who have both directly lost in court promoting the "2 US citizen parent" theory. to date the ankeny v daniels decision has been cited and concured in court by the judge 13 times.
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nearly $1.5billion was spent between the romney and mccain campaigns to defeat obama.

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other than to attack the messenger with insults, slanders and slurs.
i'll admit this post is a little snarky:

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you may also want to try throwing a temper tantrum. works for some kids.
besides that can you point to any "insults, slanders and slurs" of mine in this thread?


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Your arguments lack of substance.....
i've offered multiple times now (4?) to politely discuss the topic with you. each time i have you've left the conversation and ignored the offer.

the offer is still open (5?)


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..... this matter needs to be investigated.
it has:

Qualifications for President and the

http://www.scribd.com/doc/41197555/4...ma-Eligibility

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Old 01-22-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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..... and we will NEVER give up.....
.....unless someone offers to politely discuss the topic.

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Old 01-22-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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There is no standing to sue.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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There is no standing to sue.
Who does have standing, if not those harmed? You are aware that this fraud just took the oath to protect and uphold the Constitution a 2nd time. Everything about him is a lie. He has usurped the office, we the people have every right to find out who he really is. There has been more secrecy in this administration than ever. You are witness to the fundamental change he has wrought upon this country, all Americans are being harmed.
At least we know who Biden is, and what we are getting with him. Bozo should have been arrested for treason a long time ago, along with his cronies.

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Posterity! you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
John Adams (1735-1826) - Letter to Abigail Adams (27 April 1777), published as Letter CXI in Letters of John Adams, Addressed to His Wife (1841) edited by Charles Francis Adams, p. 218

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Old 01-22-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Can we say TORT REFORM? Any idiot who can pay the filing fee can start a lawsuit.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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Who does have standing, if not those harmed?
shows you never read the US Constitution. You know, where it says that Congress is responsible, and they don't do it through the courts. They have their own procedures (as outlined by the SAME US Constitution).

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You are aware that this fraud just took the oath to protect and uphold the Constitution a 2nd time.
sorry, but what fraud too the oath? I saw President Obama take the Oath a 2nd time. not a fraud. The frauds here are birthers.

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Everything about him is a lie.
Says a birther, who has been caught in more lies than the whole of the GOP.

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He has usurped the office,
which shows that birthers still have no idea what usurp means (hint: you can't vote in a usurper, it goes against the entire definition of what an usurper is)

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we the people have every right to find out who he really is.
we know more about Obama, than any previous President before him.

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There has been more secrecy in this administration than ever.
He's had the most open Administration since Reagan.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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Who does have standing, .....
romney would have had a pretty solid claim up until january 6th. should have asked sooner.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Who does have standing, if not those harmed?
If anything about birtherism was true, there would be no need for standing at all. There is no hurdle of Article III standing in criminal cases, only civil cases. Therefore, if any genuine evidence existed that any documents were forged or any fraud was committed, then a criminal indictment would be in order.

But after more than 5 years and 200 civil court cases, no birther has ever been able to initiate a criminal case. Not even Sheriff Arpaio... and who is in a better position to initiate criminal proceedings than a county sheriff? Seriously?

That tells you that even Arpaio doesn't believe he has the tiniest shred of evidence that Barack Obama is not a natural-born US citizen.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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Not even Sheriff Arpaio... and who is in a better position to initiate criminal proceedings than a county sheriff? Seriously?
wasn't there the claim, either from arpio, the cold case posse or jerome corsi, that they had the name of the person who's computer was used to create the "forgery"?


.....still waiting on that revelation.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: North America
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Yet another birther thread with the same debunked evidence. You folks are either delusional or you have a short-term memory problem.


...I vote both.



...look familiar?
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