Survey: 64% of Republicans are "birthers" (voters, 2013, New York)

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by MORebelWoman

..... and NO, African would not have been on any certificate back then.

un-freaking-believable. these points have been repeatedly pointed out to you as false, with support, yet you continue to promote them as fact. are you intentionally ignoring the evidence or is this just an extreme example of cognitive dissonance?

yet again, here are the facts:

- race was self reported on the vital records.
- the 1962 KENYA population census lists "african" as a choice for race.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/%7Ermccaa/IP...n_forms.en.pdf

Race was not stated as a country back then no matter how many times you say it.

we can go beyond just saying it, we can show evidence that your statement is false.:

The African Race: the final chapter - Obama Conspiracy Theories

a 1961 HI birth certificate listing the mother's race as "Hawaiian Fil Port Sp".

But, let's just say you are right...Kenya was not the name of that country back in 1961.

yes, it was. yet again, the country became known as kenya in 1920

"The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony."

it didn't become the independent republic of kenya till 1964.

Go ahead and believe your fantasies and I will continue to believe in reality.

you appear to have that backwards.

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by MORebelWoman

But, let's just say you are right...Kenya was not the name of that country back in 1961.

let's start here. a relatively simple fact to confirm. what do you believe was the country's name in 1961 ( please provide supporting evidence ) ?

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

let's start here. a relatively simple fact to confirm. what do you believe was the country's name in 1961 ( please provide supporting evidence ) ?

It's not what someone "believes". Kenya had a plurality of names prior to its independence.


History of Kenya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

It's not what someone "believes". Kenya had a plurality of names prior to its independence.


History of Kenya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

thanks, meant to add that link in my previous post.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

thanks, meant to add that link in my previous post.

I read it an there is no one single name that Kenya was called prior to its independence.
Until 1977 birth certificates in the US were open ended and could be filled in with anything.

Kenya Colony (one of it's names) vs Kenya could have meant the same thing back in 1961..who knows.

Lots of times I'll say I'm from New York and don't always add "City" and most people identify that as NYC rather than NY State.

[Torpedos]

survey also says 36% are not birthers.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by TrapperJohn

I searched the website I couldn't find the questions or the methodology.

The Fairleigh Dickinson University poll of 814 registered voters was conducted nationally bytelephone with both landline and cell phones from December 10 through December 16, 2012,and has a margin of error of +/-3.4 percentage points. Methodology, questions, and tables on the web at:PublicMind Poll :: Fairleigh Dickinson University
Radio actualities at 201.692.2846 For more information, please call 201.692.7032

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

Kenya Colony (one of it's names) vs Kenya could have meant the same thing back in 1961..who knows.

i also posted a link to the 1962 kenya population census that refers to the country as..... kenya.

i'm still curious to hear what exactly MOrebel believes the country was called and what she believes should have been on the birth certificate.

[MaseMan]

Originally Posted by Torpedos

survey also says 36% are not birthers.

Which in 2013 is completely pathetic.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

The Fairleigh Dickinson University poll of 814 registered voters was conducted nationally bytelephone with both landline and cell phones from December 10 through December 16, 2012,and has a margin of error of +/-3.4 percentage points. Methodology, questions, and tables on the web at:PublicMind Poll :: Fairleigh Dickinson University
Radio actualities at 201.692.2846 For more information, please call 201.692.7032

I also looked through their archives. The poll and questions and tables are not on the site.
And the archives go back in years. Subsequent polls are there though.
And each poll release also has attached the questions and tables.
This particular release is not on their site and the rest of the survey pages (questions/tables) didn't seem to make it to the MSM story.

Here's the 2012 archives:
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/prioryears/2012.html

Note: I found it !!!
It's under a 2013 "Out there" category and not part of their regular archives for either 2012 or current 2013 polls.

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2013/outthere/