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Old 01-17-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I can see that I do need to take another look at everything, but what made me come to this conclusion is my boss telling me that if I did not already have health insurance by next year, that I would be denied a couple hundred dollars next year on my return and then 600 dollars the year after on the next return. Didn't know if my taxes would be affected by the new law on this return, and it seemed weird that I have been making the same income for about 8 years and suddenly my tax return is cut down by $300 this year.
Actually I am not sure that any official returns could be back by now since we are still a few days from when the IRS said they would be able to do that.

Rob, I feel for you and know both my sons who have been paid one time this month and saw a lot more withheld than they anticipated, but neither of them has the problem you do. I hope it all works out for you.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Whether or not you can "afford to take time off" for your surgery is beyond the scope of any healthcare plan. Look for a better job?
Been trying since I graduated in 2010, and I'll try harder for you. Seems my degree isn't helping me at all, so maybe someone that cares like you can put in a good word for me someplace I apply. Thanks for the advice!
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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All you conservative baggers complaining here - why don't you take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for your health care?

Here, let your own Heritage Foundation and Willard Romney explain it:


Mitt Romney First Introducing the Individual Mandate at Heritage in Jan. 2006 - YouTube
I thought Romneycare and Obamacare were almost the same thing. Are they not?
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:47 PM
 
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Hey well got to thinking and I supose knee surgery would lay a person up for a while with no income that would be not good.obamacare is mostly for expanding medicaid so look into getting that if you qualify. working people are mostly screwed.As a senior citizen this is the first time in my life I have been forced to buy something under threat from my gov with fines and punishment. the new king needs to go. I got no money so just jail me and be done with it.
Guess you've never had car insurance.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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So, I am a lower income employee, struggling paycheck to paycheck, and usually recieve around $600-$800 each year at tax time, but for some reason this year I was quoted that I would recieve only $300. I really needed that extra couple hundred bucks due to being the only income in my apartment now that my mother lost her job last year and I've been paying the bills. So is this the beginning of all the awesome benefits us poor people have to look forward to each year, or does that start next year on our taxes?

Thank God I do actually need healthcare and knee surgery, but can't even afford to take time off to use the healthcare because I can't even afford to take time off for surgery due to my financial situation. So I'm so glad we all get to chip in to this system of 'free' healthcare that I basically have to pay for, but can't use. How do you think Obamacare helps someone like me? Am I going to be penalized each year at tax time for this so called free healthcare that I cannot use?
I would just do what the liberals do... Quit your job get free section 8 housing, food stamps, cash assistance, free health care under medicaid, a free phone and other goodies. Then teach your children how to work the system, they teach their children etc.. Then, you can sit around when your 80 with all the grandkids and ***** about how the world has screwed you. It works for the 52 million people that voted for the moron in the whitehouse it should work for you.

Now that I think about it, that probably won't work for you. You seem like a hard worker and someone with a conscience.

There are a lot of people struggling paycheck to paycheck. Obama is going into his 5th year in the whitehouse and unemployment is still high and the jobs the economy is producing are not living wage jobs. Just think you have 4 more years of pain and suffering to enjoy!

But hey, we have free health care, the coal industry is being trampled, we gave away a $hitpile of money to Obama donors to see if we could produce green energy, taxes went up for everyone, we started a couple new wars/actions, Terrorists are having fun in the middle east, we have abandoned Israel, We haven't prosecuted one person for the corporate raping we took back in 2008 and his golf game has improved dramatically since he took office because he is spending so much time on the links. At least he is in the process of destroying almost all area's of our way of life not just one.

Nice.....
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Would that better job be one that allowed him to sit down all the time? Surely you aren't being serious with that suggestion.
Exactly. Thank you for saying that. I've been dealing with my knee issues since I was a kid. Had 4 surgeries so far, and need another, so I'm limited in the types of work I can do. I am the type of person who doesn't like handouts and has been doing pizza delivery for years because it allows me time to sit down while on the job to rest my leg. I struggle each day with pain. I have severe arthritis and a torn ACL plus I need a knee replacement. I graduated from DeVry in 2010 with an associates degree in electronics, but have had no luck in getting an interview for a job in that field since then. I figure that I am already making the 5.45 an hour at my current job plus tips which vary each day and have a stable amount of hours, so for me to give up a job where I can sit down sometimes and remain active which helps my arthritis for some other low income job where hours and the same money isn't guarenteed is dumb for me in my situation as I have to maintain paying the rent and bills as my mother lost her job and I'm supporting the both of us on a pizza delivery job. People just don't understand how complicated and hard things have been, there are way more things to this than I am going to give on an open forum to the public, but it's not as simple as the previous poster mentioned. Wish my life was as simple as thiers if that is what they think the solution would be for me because they assume that's what they could be able to do in their own life without my obstacles. I hate city-data and the assumptions people make on here. Not every solution people has works for every situation.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:52 AM
 
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So I'm so glad we all get to chip in to this system of 'free' healthcare that I basically have to pay for, but can't use. How do you think Obamacare helps someone like me? Am I going to be penalized each year at tax time for this so called free healthcare that I cannot use?
Socialised medicine is the way forward.

It is there when you need it.

Time to stop just thinking of yourself - how about contributing to the unity of the people?
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Socialised medicine is the way forward.

It is there when you need it.

Time to stop just thinking of yourself - how about contributing to the unity of the people?
I really do understand where you are coming from because I used to think that way. I thought why couldn't the guy begging for money have the same things and opportunities as the guy with the BMW staring at him on the corner. I beleive that in some places this is the way of life and people want to help others so much, and I agree with doing that, but I kinda woke out of that whole way of thinking after realizing how deceptive people in power are. They know how people like you and me think and they exploit it. In my country, the United States it is not supposed to be a system of redistribution where one man gives another his money by way of the government just because one man has less, but that is what this has become. Not too long ago people took care of each other over here without government enforcement and laws. Once laws like affirmitave action came into place (which actually were great for a time) took affect things changed here. Now we have a system of free healthcare, but where I came from in life, I've learned nothing comes for free. No need to be political about that, it's true that nothing is for free, and it's usually the poor who pay for things and stay stranded in a hole where we can't get up out of due to this government runs everything mentality.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:49 AM
 
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it's not for free agreed, extra taxes.

perhaps about 7% extra on income tax to have fully socialised medicine (this is my generalised number which seems about right)

so would you, or the public at large be willing to pay this?

for me, I think this is fine, because no need to worry about losing your home if your insurance doesn't cover you for some unexpected health issue

and we are not just talking about the beggars on the street - no, this is for all people of low to mid income

(and for richer people, then they can have socialised medicine or insurance)


so how about it?
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Socialised medicine is the way forward.

It is there when you need it.

Time to stop just thinking of yourself - how about contributing to the unity of the people?
Is that you Barack???
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