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Old 01-23-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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For those lost in time, meet

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Welcome back to the present.
Look at Col., now Congresswoman Tammy Duckworth, a decorated helicopter pilot who lost both her legs in combat.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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No need to restrict membership in the chickenhawk club to Republicans. Ask BO, "Plugs" Biden, President Clinton.
Let's see Obama was 42, Biden was 61 and Clinton was 57 in 2003, as opposed to these strapping young gentle me of the GOP so what exactly is your point in reference to the question, where were the men during the Iraq war.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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Didn't see either of those three beating the drums for war in any way.
"Plugs" thought the war in Iraq was a great idea. He voted for it.

BO thought an increase in troop strength in Afghanistan was a good idea. He sent them.

I don't think Bill Clinton was too opposed to sending folks to the Balkans. In fact, he has bemoaned not sending folks to Africa in 1994-1995.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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The present is America in decline. What's your point?
Then by all means feel free to go back to that kinder gentiler era of your imagination.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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Let's see Obama was 42, Biden was 61 and Clinton was 57 in 2003, as opposed to these strapping young gentle me of the GOP so what exactly is your point in reference to the question, where were the men during the Iraq war.
What were they doing when they were strapping young men? Give you a hint .... none of them was wearing a military uniform.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for Lola

Yes, women want to suffer from PTS and leave limbs on the ground in foreign countries, or worse pour their lives out upon the ground?

Sure, war is so romantic.
I'm puzzled by some of these posts. Particularly this one. Are you implying that the only reason a woman would be interested in doing something is because it's "romantic"...?

Women are good for more than romance, I assure you, and have a broader spectrum of interests.

However I'm leaning towards this not being a very good idea too, to have women in combat situations...reason being is that I think that it will make the male soldiers less effective to have women present. Many men have instincts to protect women and it could interfere with their missions. Besides which I've already heard plenty of stories from my husband (Army) about deployed women who work on the foreign bases being involved in all sorts of trouble, from sleeping with everyone to officers facing adultery charges, to allegations of a prostitution ring...and then there are the military training "schools" where all kinds of sexual shenanigans are taking place. A woman might have noble things on her mind when she enlists, but it does seem that the lowest common denominator, and nature taking its course, is rather how the military operates in a day to day fashion.

As for me, I'm glad we don't even live on post!
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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What's troubling is that liberals consider a woman getting shot in the head or legs blown off like their male counterparts being a form of "progress."
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:59 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for Lola

Yes, women want to suffer from PTS and leave limbs on the ground in foreign countries, or worse pour their lives out upon the ground?

Sure, war is so romantic.
And men want that any more? Women don't all care about being "romantic," you know... is this 1953 or 2013, again?
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Yes, women want to suffer from PTS and leave limbs on the ground in foreign countries, or worse pour their lives out upon the ground?

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No need for them to travel to foreign lands to do that ...... we just had 6 of them do that on December 14 about 20 minutes from my house.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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What were they doing when they were strapping young men? Give you a hint .... none of them was wearing a military uniform.
You are right, in 2003 they weren't and neither were those GOP chicken hawks.

But enough of this diversion, you tried to make your point and I've made mine.

We're done here.
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