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Old 02-14-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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Millions of people hunt animals. It's a priviledge given to us by the state and federal government. What is wrong with taking advantage of hunting? On the other hand. Ted did not avoid the draft. Here is why. Ted was classified 1-5 (High School Deferment) in 1967 and 2-5 (College Deferment) in 1968. Then after being classified as 1-A (available for military service) in 1969, he was rejected because he failed his physical and was given a 1-Y classification (meaning he had physical medical limitations (hearing loss) but not disabling during a national emergency or wartime resulting in demoting him). After the 1-Y classification was eliminated at the end of 1971, he was reclassified 4-F. What does this mean? It means Ted didn't dodge the draft at all even though he had a deferment at the time he was eligible for the draft. He got on the bus like everyone else and went to go take his physical instead of heading to Canada to avoid combat. The military according to his selective service classification gave him a medical exemption due to a medical limitation.
this is a repeat of what you just posted. I have read then thread. have anything new to say? any thoughts on ted's own words on how he made sure to to fail the physical?

he didn't "get on the bus" like 90% of the young men in his generation. He "got on the bus as a weasel intent on failing" unlike most of the young men who were called. it is impossible and truly insulting to equate ted with the hero's that did put their lives on the line in VN.

since you like to repeat things let me say ted is only man enough to shoot unarmed animals. he is a weasel of the lowest order.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Covered in his own feces (or are you saying Ted is a liar)? This is what passes as a true American hero to the right.

Not everyone has political connections and can hide in England and Moscow like Bill Clinton.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Millions of people hunt animals. It's a priviledge given to us by the state and federal government. What is wrong with taking advantage of hunting? On the other hand. Ted did not avoid the draft. Here is why. Ted was classified 1-5 (High School Deferment) in 1967 and 2-5 (College Deferment) in 1968. Then after being classified as 1-A (available for military service) in 1969, he was rejected because he failed his physical and was given a 1-Y classification (meaning he had physical medical limitations (hearing loss) but not disabling during a national emergency or wartime resulting in demoting him). After the 1-Y classification was eliminated at the end of 1971, he was reclassified 4-F. What does this mean? It means Ted didn't dodge the draft at all even though he had a deferment at the time he was eligible for the draft. He got on the bus like everyone else and went to go take his physical instead of heading to Canada to avoid combat. The military according to his selective service classification gave him a medical exemption due to a medical limitation.
And, you probably won't believe this, but hundreds of thousands of Americans proudly put their lives on the line, and went off to fight wars, and didn't crap their pants to get out of it.

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Not everyone has political connections and can hide in England and Moscow like Bill Clinton.
Or like Romney did, hiding behind religion in France.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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any thoughts on ted's own words on how he made sure to to fail the physical?

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Yes I do. Nugent later admitted to making up the story because the High Times reporter was "gullible". Case closed.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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And, you probably won't believe this, but hundreds of thousands of Americans proudly put their lives on the line, and went off to fight wars, and didn't crap their pants to get out of it.


Or like Romney did, hiding behind religion in France.

Baloney. You have been watching too many movies. No one proudly puts their life on the line for anything unless they are a psycho.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Well, not so much.

snopes.com: Ted Nugent Dodged the Draft?


From a 1977 High Times Interview:

"I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin' and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin' kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I'd drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, **** the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.

So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn't believe the smell. They were ridiculin' me and pushin' me around and I was cryin', but all the time I was laughin' to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, "Oh my God, put those back on! You f****** swine you!" Then they had a urine test and I couldn't ****, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin' up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin' up. So I went home and cleaned up.

But you know the funny thing about it? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of mother*******' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it.



So, let me ask the folks out there who hold this guy up as a hero, and a spokesperson for the right wing...

Why?

Why does the left hold up Bill Clinton, he was a draft dodger and why do they chastise Chaney for getting deferments and hold up Joe Biden who got 5 deferments?

Hypocrite much?
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Anybody else find it odd that Ted was bragging that his views were endorsed by cops and TSA agents?
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: North America
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Why does the left hold up Bill Clinton, he was a draft dodger and why do they chastise Chaney for getting deferments and hold up Joe Biden who got 5 deferments?

Hypocrite much?

Why does the right hold up Ted Nugent and Dick Cheney and deride Bill Clinton and Joe Biden for deferrments.

Hypocrite, party of you.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:44 AM
 
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Yes I do. Nugent later admitted to making up the story because the High Times reporter was "gullible". Case closed.

case closed? lol amazing how easy it is for some to live with only the information they find acceptable.
ted recanted his high time interview not because it isn't true but in hindsight it shows him for what he truly is, a slime ball doing all he could to avoid serving his country, which is contrary to the "image" he is cultivating now as a patriot. do tell just what medical problems did ted have that were so bad he was able to get a medical deferment for?
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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Exactly the outcome he wanted. When questioned by the Secret service, he said he lied, and mentioned the student deferment, but left out the 1Y. Why was that?

I cannot figure out why people love this blowhard.

I cannot figure out why lefties hate him so much. Oh, wait a minute, I know, many hate anyone with an R next to their name.
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